# 2Advanced **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [June 4, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163 "2003-06-04T12:10:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/381 "2003-07-17T22:47:03Z")
I experienced none of those bugs fluid, I don’t know what your smokin, but you are definitely seeing things. I am on a crap 750mhz system with low Ram… and still it runs good. And “all experiments load in a new window” is a bug? Well then, each navigation button opening a new section must be a bug too. And what about clicking on the different song links, they start new songs, that must definitely be a bug! Oh oh oh, and the button to expand the home window, that is definitely a bug. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/382 "2003-07-17T22:48:18Z")
> \*Originally posted by lostinbeta \* > \*\*I experienced none of those bugs fluid, I don’t know what your smokin, but you are definitely seeing things. I am on a crap 750mhz system with low Ram… and still it runs good. And “all experiments load in a new window” is a bug? Well then, each navigation button opening a new section must be a bug too. And what about clicking on the different song links, they start new songs, that must definitely be a bug! Oh oh oh, and the button to expand the home window, that is definitely a bug. \*\* Lost. . . . .your such a jerk! :love: Your best quality 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/383 "2003-07-17T22:49:10Z")
You trained me well Dan :love: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/384 "2003-07-17T22:51:02Z")
You have learned well my dark side son! :evil: Slay the young padawan. . . .and his little bug Toto too! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/385 "2003-07-17T22:53:16Z")
I’m ready ![](http://www.lostinbeta.com/banner/minisephy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/386 "2003-07-17T22:54:19Z")
Fluid-One has a tendancy to dog on someone else’s work, without any explaination of why… I suggest we just ignore his comments until he learns to back them up with substance… JMO Duane ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/387 "2003-07-17T22:55:15Z")
> \*Originally posted by Duane Dibley \* > \*\*Fluid-One has a tendancy to dog on someone else’s work, without any explaination of why… I suggest we just ignore his comments until he learns to back them up with substance… JMO Duane \*\* We can’t just cut him down to size Rev ? ![](http://www.lostinbeta.com/banner/minisephy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/388 "2003-07-17T22:58:00Z")
too much energy wasted on too little of a pain… 😉 Duane ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/389 "2003-07-17T22:58:57Z")
Hey Duane are you the Artist formerly known as Reverend Flash? Fluid usually has good comments but he must have woke up on the wring side of the bed. Ya’ll give em a break. Hey Dan get your hands away from that BAN button. The site is good \*\*\*\* good…lets leave it at that. I still say bussey owns everyone right now…I still wanna know how he did those trasitions. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/390 "2003-07-17T22:59:06Z")
> \*Originally posted by Duane Dibley \* > \*\*too much energy wasted on too little of a pain… 😉 Duane \*\* Yeah, I guess your right. So… what do the people want? SUBSTANCE!!! Can fluid provide it? … ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/391 "2003-07-17T23:01:58Z")
lets see… I think some of the “snide-ness” comes from English not being his first language… at least that is the break I’m giving… If not, let’s see F1 do a site comparable… even if it takes a while, and is quite short, let’s see some envelope pushing work… Rev ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/392 "2003-07-17T23:08:40Z")
Although I don’t know how difficult the water is or the transitions on billy bussey, I’d have to say that billy bussey’s site is just absolutely amazing, while I think 2advanced has been a let down. There just aren’t that many cool movies, it’s just some drawings and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/393 "2003-07-17T23:17:22Z")
> \*Originally posted by 3d-iva \* > \*\*So ASP and PHP cannot do what flash comm server can. Please read b4 you post…And no way can you pull flash remoting in either of those languages. Without using like biztalk server which cost like 100g’s \*\* i never said it could but did they do it? i dont see audio and visual chat??? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/394 "2003-07-17T23:18:02Z")
billy bussey is better, by far! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/395 "2003-07-17T23:22:51Z")
They are two different kinds of sites UncleGuito, in your opinion it is better by far, in my opinion you don’t have a right to put in your two cents on any design until you know what the site is all about and what is going on behind the scenes. I mean you don’t even know the purpose of the two sites, you are just like: “ooooooooohhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, the colors!!!” “dude the 3d thingy is awesome!!!” “BB is much better, dont ask me why, it just is!” Things like that are pointless and should be deleted! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/396 "2003-07-17T23:23:38Z")
thanks ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/397 "2003-07-17T23:26:55Z")
well i think telekinisis is trying to say people who have no right to say a word about 2a are trashing their site. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/398 "2003-07-17T23:31:13Z")
The reason I stated bussey was better is because he is putting something out there that I personally have not seen b4 done. WHile 2a there site seems to be like their last one in terms of graphics. Now back end I heard the have some wonderful stuff there. BUt I just have seen ot b4. I have not however seen busseys transitions before…and yes 3d has been done b4. But I appreciate the HDR. Which is not the average 3d. But to each his own. 2A and bussey both are good for the industry and good for me because it pushes me to learn more and do better or die trying. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/399 "2003-07-17T23:48:10Z")
Save to hard drive and view: [http://www.2advanced.com/popup/media/prophecyV4-web.mov](http://www.2advanced.com/popup/media/prophecyV4-web.mov) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163/400 "2003-07-17T23:52:40Z")
3d-Iva - you supply reasoning as to why you prefer one over the other, that is why no one has said anything about why you said what you said. Others however just like to say that one is better and that is that, they don’t state why they think it (well a logical reason other then it’s “prettier” on the outside). I personally like 2As site better than Billys because Billys site lagged and crashed my browser every time I viewed it because it was too CPU intensive. Also, Billys site to me seemed like one big imported MPEG movie with Flash buttons to control the playback. His site is pretty much just a mpeg movie from 3ds max that was imported into flash and has play buttons. Also, you have to click on the nagivation to enter a section that shows the sign of what the section is about, then you have to click that sign to go through yet another transition to get to the actual content. That got quite annoying to me. And thats aside from the loading times :hangover: 2A ran smoothly on my system, it loaded quick (well… not super quick because of the server lag), I like the colors and transitions, and the fact that they use flash comm as their backend to make their site fully dynamic is incredible. \To me\, the new 2A site is just as amazing on the frontend as it is on the backend. [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/2advanced/28163.md?page=21)