# 3500 Songs Gawn

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**Category:** random\
**Created:** [April 16, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815 "2006-04-16T20:29:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/1 "2006-04-16T20:29:49Z")

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So let’s see. Where do I start this fun little adventure. I have an external hard drive that’s something like 160 gigs and I decided that I’d store all my music on there so I could take it to and fro (though I have yet to take it to nor fro in the six months I’ve had it, it just stays hooked up to my pc). Yesterday I finally got back home from nearly dying for a week and decided that I wanted to listen to some tunes. So I open up iTunes and realize that I’d formatted my computer just before I’d left for my trip to various hospitals. No big deal, I’ll just re-add my music folder. I add a folder and only my music from artists a - ba appear. Huh, must be this new iTunes. Manually go to folder - HOLY CRAP. All my music is actually gone.

Lame. But fixable. I’ll just get everything off my iPod. So I turn on my iPod this morning so I can use iPod Agent to get all the goods. I reset my iPod a couple of times because I basically have to do that 20 times a day because I get the sad iPod logo. Well this time in a cruel twist of fate it erases all my music. That’s it, 3500 songs are gone. I am absolutely devestated, it took me many years and many dollars to get all that music and now it’s just gone. I have a lot of it in CD’s that I can rerip the but CD’s are hundreds of miles away and I just don’t want to rip that much music again.

iTunes shows my iPod as still having all the space taken up from the previous songs but it doesn’t see the songs either.

So is there anything I can do or am I just absolutely horribly screwed. ☹

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/2 "2006-04-16T20:31:49Z")

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Well that sucks… but 160 gigs is definitely not 3500 songs… ☹

There’s an app for Windows that lets you get music off your iPod: ephPod. Google it and it may help.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/3 "2006-04-16T20:33:08Z")

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No it wasn’t devoted entirely to the music. That’s the weird thing, all my other files are in tact entirely, I’ve got like 50 gigs of other files and they’re all fine. It’s just that one folder that got beat up.

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/4 "2006-04-16T20:37:10Z")

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Oh that sucks \*\*\*…

Yeah 3500 songs is between 15 and 20gb, I have the same amount and it takes up 18gb.

You said iTunes says theres space taken up so perhaps it’s not actually deleted the songs, try doing this:

(i’m assuming your on a PC).

Open an explorer window (double click on My Computer or something). Go Tools \> Folder Options then click the view tab and enable the ‘View Hidden Files and Folders’ button thingy.

Now go to yer iPod using My Computer. Double click on it to explore the files. There should be a folder called iPod\_Control, open that, then double click on Music. If it’s all there, there should be a ton of folders called like F01, F02 etc…

That’s basically all your music. However, the way iPods index the music sorts it like this, so you need to just transfer everything to your PC, then drag it into iTunes and it should add it all back.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/5 "2006-04-16T20:38:06Z")

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Or just use ephPod, which will do that for you. 😉

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/6 "2006-04-16T20:39:52Z")

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Yeah but if it’s not detecting the music then you might have to do it manually…

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/7 "2006-04-16T20:41:05Z")

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Perhaps…

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/8 "2006-04-16T20:41:51Z")

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:moustache

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**Author:** ![Sniper\_Jo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sniper\_Jo](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Sniper_Jo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/9 "2006-04-16T20:42:22Z")

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> [@nokrev](#):
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> Well that sucks… but 160 gigs is definitely not 3500 songs… ☹
> 
> There’s an app for Windows that lets you get music off your iPod: ephPod. Google it and it may help.

Ipod Agent lets you rip from your ipod,

Did you tryusing a file restorer to see if you have accidently deleeted your files? goggle [URL=“[file restorer - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=file+restorer&ie=UTF-8&oe=)  
UTF-8”]“file restorer”

Hope that helps

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/10 "2006-04-16T20:44:40Z")

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I think Ipod Agent and ephPod are basically the same thing (but ephPod has other fetures, too).

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/11 "2006-04-16T20:46:11Z")

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Yeah there are loads of them, theres another called CopyPod (and PhotoPod for photos) and iPod IT for Mac which is pretty sweet.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/12 "2006-04-16T21:04:58Z")

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Yeah there’s a ton of options out there, they all suck equally I’m sure. I’m going to try going in manually here in a bit, I’ll report my failure at that time 🙂

Thanks for the help all

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**Author:** ![hl1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/hl1/32/849_2.png) [@hl1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hl1)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/13 "2006-04-16T23:03:20Z")

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Looks like Steve’s picking on you today. There was a thread about a manual method to rip songs from your ipod on kF. A quick search should find it.

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**Author:** ![JoshuaJonah](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/joshuajonah/32/1775_2.png) [@JoshuaJonah](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/JoshuaJonah)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/14 "2006-04-16T23:07:58Z")

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They are all still there, it’s just the XML that indexes them is messed up. To clean this up, drag the itunes music library file onto the itunes app. You will lose your album structure, but your songs will all be in the library.

I just want to put this disclaimer out there for all who read this:  
[SIZE=4][COLOR=black]NEVER GO IN YOUR ITUNES LIBRARY, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO IN THERE. EVERYTHING CAN BE DONE THROUGH THE APP. [/COLOR][/SIZE]  
[SIZE=4][/SIZE]  
[SIZE=4]BY GOING IN THAT FOLDER, YOU CANNOT DO ANY GOOD, ONLY HARM.[/SIZE]

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/15 "2006-04-16T23:16:31Z")

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No he dosen’t actually have the Library file, he said he formatted his PC remember.

He’s only got his iPod to work with (unless the songs are actually erased)

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/16 "2006-04-16T23:17:51Z")

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[size=7]Ouch[/size]

Yeah do that thing with the View Hidden Files and Folders thing, and you should see a bunch of folders with weird ash name MP3’s in them. Just use Music Brainz to ID3tag and rename them (and you’d better hope they are in MP3’s cause that’s the only thing Music Brainz supports).

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**Author:** ![Butters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Butters](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Butters)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/17 "2006-04-16T23:18:41Z")

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You don’t need to rename them, if you just drag them back into iTunes it keeps all the info, even artwork, of the tracks.

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/18 "2006-04-16T23:23:27Z")

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Oh that’s right the ID3 tags are still in the MP3.

I remember there’s a program that names the files according to the ID3 tags (you can choose how you want it). It’s like… ID3 Tagger or something.

I keep all my music files named to the appropriate thing, so I can find which one is which in Explorer 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/19 "2006-04-16T23:35:24Z")

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iTunes can automatically handle the naming and organization. 😉

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3500-songs-gawn/185815/20 "2006-04-16T23:50:05Z")

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But then it moves everything to their folders according to artist and album. A lot of my stuff don’t even have albums 😕

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