# 3D game programming

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-game-programming/129872>\
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**Created:** [November 29, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-game-programming/129872 "2004-11-29T16:54:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![tim\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@tim\_j](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/tim_j)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-game-programming/129872/1 "2004-11-29T16:54:56Z")

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I wanted to start a 3D game using c++ and openGL but I was wondering wich program to use first I thought swift 3D but can you use it with openGL as well as .3Ds (3D studio max)?But 3D studio max is way to expensive for me…What do I do?O and wat is Quake3 I can’t find anything about it but it looks pretty good.