# 3d studio max - wireframe render
**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842
**Category:** design
**Created:** [August 31, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842 "2003-08-31T21:07:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@m\_c\_bell](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/m_c_bell)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/1 "2003-08-31T21:07:13Z")
ok in 3d studio max 5 is there a way to render both a material and a wireframe like 1 pixel thick or bigger?
thanks
mike
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2003, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/2 "2003-08-31T21:23:18Z")
to my knowledge you have to make 2 renders, first solid (normal), and then wireframe afterwards.
make sure to save as targa format (saves the alpha channel output as well), then blends them together in photoshop…
🙂
_I think_
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/3 "2003-08-31T23:30:29Z")
Try [www.snotmonster.com](http://www.snotmonster.com)
It has an edgemap plugin which I use fairly frequently. I’m not sure about support for max 5, but its worth a try.
The traditional method (non-plugin) is to select the mesh and make a spline shape from it, push the shape out and then make the shape edges renderable… this is a pain in the arse, and you can get much better results from a plugin. You can also check out [www.maxplugins.de](http://www.maxplugins.de)
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2003, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/4 "2003-09-01T08:54:26Z")
i would help you, but…seeing as you were been evil in some other threads, im not gunna. also, u made that stupid avatar.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/5 "2003-09-01T08:57:19Z")
lol who would wanna join a crap forum lkike that?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2003, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/6 "2003-09-01T09:04:11Z")
i dunno?? who would??
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2003, 9:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/7 "2003-09-01T09:11:07Z")
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that about sums it up
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-studio-max-wireframe-render/29842/8 "2003-09-04T18:33:33Z")
kh3mical. get it into your chemically messed face.
hes kidding
[SWF=http://matthew.zaaz.co.uk/face.swf height=50 width=50][/SWF] chemicals chemically messed face.