# 3d User's help needed

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-users-help-needed/174862>\
**Category:** design\
**Created:** [January 9, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-users-help-needed/174862 "2006-01-09T22:39:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![zeldafreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/74df32/32.png) [@zeldafreak](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/zeldafreak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/3d-users-help-needed/174862/1 "2006-01-09T22:39:57Z")

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I think i just need some help, i currently am in high school, and i have a huge desire to do 3d art/animation. And i need someone to recommend a good 3d program. I want to be able to start out basic, but get complicated from there. I have learned Maya once, and it was not difficult (the basic stuff). But i do not know if 3ds max or A:M is better. it would be awesome if someone could recommend a good program for beginners that can be very advanced in the future. thank you.  
here i have a couple of the prices. (these are academic versions)  
Maya Complete 7 Student Bundle = $289.95  
Maya Unlimited 7 Student Bundle = $379.95 (little high)  
3ds max 8 = $389.95 (little higher)  
Animation master(commercial) = $300.00  
Cinema 4D R9.5 XL Bundle = $489.95 (high)  
the rest are [here.](http://www.academicsuperstore.com/market/market.html?category_id=255475)  
I do know there is a list of 3d programs in the stickied thread, but im trying to get a users review sort of thing.