# A question about illustrator

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/a-question-about-illustrator/32100>\
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**Created:** [October 1, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/a-question-about-illustrator/32100 "2003-10-01T15:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![DDD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DDD](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/DDD)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/a-question-about-illustrator/32100/1 "2003-10-01T15:33:16Z")

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I am giving illustrator another go and I had a question. When you begin the artboard is white (default) now if the graphic I am creating needs to be on a black or colored background can I change the color of the art board or do I hav to make like a big square on a lower layer that has the color or effect I want? I am using Ill 10.

One thing I hate already is how when you use the pathfinders ILL groups the objects for you and if you dont watch closely you’ll end up with a bunch of nested groups irritating. :frustrated: