# Another ipod competitor? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [August 11, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049 "2004-08-11T03:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![telekinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@telekinesis](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/telekinesis)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/21 "2004-08-11T23:43:18Z")
> [@Krilnon](#): > > Sorry to upset you Super Moderator Man. ☹ > > I agree that some of the cost is for the Apple name. You didn’t upset me Krilnon. No hard feelings dude, I didn’t mean it that way. I just dislike Apple product prices. Nothing against you mang! ---
**Author:** ![minimalistik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@minimalistik](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/minimalistik)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2004, 7:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/22 "2004-08-12T07:27:44Z")
> 1. Design copied off of iPod. how typical is that? In this case of the Ipod 40gb and the creative zen, your getting a better deal getting the Ipod than the creative. Based on prices here in Australia, the Ipod 40Gb costs $649 and the Creative Zen $499. For the price of per gig, Ipod is worth better. If you plan to purchase a mp3 player, just buy an ipod and still with it. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/23 "2004-08-12T15:18:05Z")
perhaps in australia or the 40 gig, but I was considering the 20 gig, hints that’s what I linked to 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MxNecromancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@MxNecromancer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MxNecromancer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/24 "2004-08-12T17:18:19Z")
Ipod? Zen? I hate all MP3 Players. If you really want somthing good, get a Sony Atrac 3 Cd-Player. 96 max hours + Self Charger 100 Bucks a Cd can hold approx 600 songs each Slim compared to other Cd players G-Protection, and all that good stuff Plays MP3’s [Sony Cd-Player](http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_D-NE710/4505-6490_7-20794400.html) I use this all the time, and i never have a problem with it ---
**Author:** ![thesignx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71e660/32.png) [@thesignx](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/thesignx)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/25 "2004-08-13T01:44:07Z")
Does any body remember the frase… great stuff for the rest of us? I think that is because there will be always people that doesn´t will ever think beyond the edge. Apple is doing great on hardware and more important they do great souls for them too, I´ll bet that Apple have great sorprises beyond the edge FOR THE REST OF US!.. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/26 "2004-08-13T01:51:35Z")
max: that’s exactly the one I own 😃 but some people complain so much I have to find some other way to say the ipod is bad… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mansour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@mansour](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/mansour)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/27 "2004-08-13T03:49:14Z")
> [@MxNeCrOmaNcEr](#): > > Ipod? Zen? I hate all MP3 Players. If you really want somthing good, get a Sony Atrac 3 Cd-Player. > > 96 max hours + Self Charger > 100 Bucks > a Cd can hold approx 600 songs each > Slim compared to other Cd players > G-Protection, and all that good stuff > Plays MP3’s > > [Sony Cd-Player](http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_D-NE710/4505-6490_7-20794400.html) > > I use this all the time, and i never have a problem with it 2 hours to copy a single CD, r u kidding me, that’s outragous! wow i still can’t believe it, i’m shocked, really i’m. unless it’s less than 15 minutes per cd, there’s no way i’m getting that. you know of anything that’s quicker? btw - since ipod is mentioned in this topic, is there a way to customize your own ipod, by that i mean, change the appearance and such…not hardware? i hope someone knows in here! ---
**Author:** ![krilnon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/krilnon/32/34_2.png) [@krilnon](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/krilnon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/28 "2004-08-13T04:32:21Z")
You mean like change the interface? ---
**Author:** ![mansour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@mansour](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/mansour)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/29 "2004-08-13T06:20:52Z")
yah everything, except for the inner hardware ---
**Author:** ![iloveitaly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ea924/32.png) [@iloveitaly](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/iloveitaly)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/30 "2004-08-13T12:22:39Z")
well, i know there is some applescript hacks-nothing spetactular though… ---
**Author:** ![krilnon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/krilnon/32/34_2.png) [@krilnon](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/krilnon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/31 "2004-08-13T15:14:03Z")
You can get stuff like ‘skins’ and ‘shells’ to change the outer appearance. ---
**Author:** ![paddy1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e36b37/32.png) [@paddy1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/paddy1)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/32 "2004-08-13T15:17:50Z")
> [@MxNeCrOmaNcEr](#): > > a Cd can hold approx 600 songs each How the hell do you get 600 songs on one CD??? I’m lucky if I can get more than 20. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/33 "2004-08-13T15:40:46Z")
by using atrac-3-plus format 😉 and you can put linux on an ipod and then customize it with anything linux can do… so it can have any application too… 😜 ---
**Author:** ![telekinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@telekinesis](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/telekinesis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/34 "2004-08-13T17:56:49Z")
You can put up to 750MB worth of music onto a data CD made for an MP3 playing CD player. Figure each song is about 3-5 MB. Almost 200 songs on a CD. I used to have an MP3 player deck in my truck and that is what I did. Seperated it into folders and such. ---
**Author:** ![MxNecromancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@MxNecromancer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MxNecromancer)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/35 "2004-08-13T18:56:11Z")
2 hours?! that guy is a Dumb\*\*\*\*\* it take0s me about 1 hour. Even if that’s the case. look at what your getting ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/36 "2004-08-13T19:52:49Z")
takes me twenty-thirty minutes 😜 ---
**Author:** ![telekinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@telekinesis](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/telekinesis)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/37 "2004-08-14T07:35:53Z")
> [@MxNeCrOmaNcEr](#): > > 2 hours?! that guy is a **[color=red]Dumb**\*\*\*[/color]\*\* it take0s me about 1 hour. Even if that’s the case. look at what your getting Watch yourself! ---
**Author:** ![MxNecromancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@MxNecromancer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MxNecromancer)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/38 "2004-08-14T18:33:20Z")
Mx: sorry Boss Telekinesis: for the last time don’t call me boss, it’s disrespecting! Mx: Alright Boss god i love that movie :lol: EDIT: watch _Oscar_ if you don’t know what i’m talking about ---
**Author:** ![morse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@morse](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/morse)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/39 "2004-08-14T18:55:13Z")
> [@bombingpixels](#): > > Well, after the sony’s ipod rival, I now see some more great competition: the Creative Zen Touch > > 24 hours batter vs. ipod’s 12 hrs > very simple controls > 20 gig is $269 vs. ipod 20 gigs which is $400!!! > can use more formats I think (can ipod play wma?) > USB 2.0 for faster transfer > Search Features > 4-band custom equalizer and advanced EQ presets let you customize your music playback > AudioSync™ lets you seamlessly update your Creative Zen Touch with your latest music on your PC at the touch of a button > FM radio, voice and FM recording via optional wired remote control (available separately) > Touch Pad Control for fast scrolling > Up to 97dB Signal-to-Noise Ratio - as good as expensive hi-fi systems! > 20GB hard drive holds up to 10,000 WMA or 5,000 MP3 songs > Create and customize playlists on-the-go > > [http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=3&subcategory=21&product=10274&campid=20459](http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=3&subcategory=21&product=10274&campid=20459) > > now tell me some reasons why the ipod is better? New 4th generation Ipod has simple controls, 20 gigs minimum, and can play pretty much any media type. Ipod can update automatically or manually. Ipod also has an equilizer. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049/40 "2004-08-14T19:31:38Z")
Geeze I’m surprised no one mentioned this. iPod has the super cool clicky spinny wheel thing! That’s enough justification right there to pick one up. [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/another-ipod-competitor/119049.md?page=3)