# Apple, RIAA and Itunes **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [November 11, 2003, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181 "2003-11-11T11:45:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![grimdeath](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/grimdeath/32/7124_2.png) [@grimdeath](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/grimdeath)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/1 "2003-11-11T11:45:48Z")
This is friggin incredible why would Apple go on and do this type of stoopid $hit its no wonder they’re always on the verge of non existence :sigh: [http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8407](http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8407) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/2 "2003-11-11T12:18:05Z")
still they’ve established themselves as the dominant legal music download people which with time could prove beneficial. They might not making any money out of it now… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/3 "2003-11-11T12:33:03Z")
I think m is right. This is probably a long term project, or at least they hope it is… :h: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/4 "2003-11-11T23:28:56Z")
you really think so?? i dont know anyone who actually pays for the music they download well maybe MAC users rotflmao ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/5 "2003-11-11T23:33:18Z")
Even PC users use iTunes do get songs from Apple’s site :panda: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/6 "2003-11-11T23:41:45Z")
> \*Originally posted by kirupa \* > \*\*Even PC users use iTunes do get songs from Apple’s site :panda: \*\* What good is a itunes,napster, kazaa or any other crappy appt to get mp3s when theres FTPS, MIRC and teh almighty BITTORRENT :evil: ahhahahahahhahahahahahhaha pay my @zz im paying the artists by going to concerts so tehy can make real profits not 2 dollar profits by purchasing CDs from the RIAA and they say we are :evil: and they are the truly :evil: ones B@stards ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/7 "2003-11-12T00:04:31Z")
I’m on a PC and I use iTunes yargh ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/8 "2003-11-12T00:15:30Z")
first sucke… um person i know that uses it do you actaully pay for the msuic you download or do you jsut use it as a jukebox player??? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/9 "2003-11-12T00:17:42Z")
I actually purchase the music. I use it for playing it as well. Of course the iTunes downloads only comprise somewhere around 2% of my music collection. I had kazaa for 2+ years before iTunes came out. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/10 "2003-11-12T04:16:01Z")
The reason I have NO moral qualms about “stealing” music online through peer-to-peer file sharing. 11 cents to the artist, 53 to the record label… It’s retarded. I’ll download my music illegally, and visit my favorite bands whenever they’re playing in concert - where the artists REALLY make their money. A place that’s more intimate, anyway, and much more fun than Tower Records, or any place like that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/11 "2003-11-12T04:50:49Z")
I agree wiht badmagick… I go to concerts all the time… And that is where the artists really get their money… Record companies give them a couple thousand a year… Advertising and concerts make them their millions… I’ll buy a cd… Only if it’s really really good… But other than that… it’s concerts… And I’ve been to 5 weezer concerts so… I do my aprt in helping the feed. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/12 "2003-11-12T05:21:00Z")
> \*Originally posted by buddhamarz \* > \*\*I’ll buy a cd… Only if it’s really really good… But other than that… it’s concerts… And I’ve been to 5 weezer concerts so… I do my aprt in helping the feed. \*\* > Oh yeah. I’ll get the CD if it’s a really good one, just to have the CD and the cover art/insert. You can’t get that from digital media, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/13 "2003-11-12T06:45:02Z")
grimgrimgrimgrim … :sure:… what are you - on a mission ? your new word for the day is - “lossLeader” …if you’d have actually _read_ enough of it you’d see they stand to profit in associated sales but only “break even” on this bit (ergo, it is not really a loss) … the crazy part here is not against apple but against the riaa imo- the riaa should all be taken out back and shot :bad: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/14 "2003-11-12T08:24:25Z")
> \*Originally posted by RelandR \* > \*\* > imo- the riaa should all be taken out back and shot :bad: \*\* and then shot again just to make sure they stay dead :bad: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/15 "2003-11-12T09:49:45Z")
Apple were raving that they out performed the new Napster [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3249535.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3249535.stm) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:09am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/16 "2003-11-12T10:09:03Z")
You trying to tell me that a band will make _more_ money out of doing a couple of gigs (where ticket prices have to cover rental of the venue + sercurity and other expenses) than they will out of selling a couple of million albums? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/17 "2003-11-12T10:20:16Z")
Robbie Williams Knebworth 3 days work 125000 people per day £30 per ticket £11m ok take a bit off for venue and staff but that doesn’t include all the royalties from merchandise. No wonder he was smiling. 4 album deal 80 million - 5-6 years to complete 4 albums its one to ponder but there are the facts 11 million in 3 days 80 million in 6 years! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/18 "2003-11-12T10:27:19Z")
not bad for a few days work. few gigs are as big as that tho ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/apple-riaa-and-itunes/35181/19 "2003-11-12T12:01:28Z")
> \*Originally posted by RelandR \* > \*\*grimgrimgrimgrim … :sure:… > what are you - on a mission ? your new word for the day is - “lossLeader” …if you’d have actually _read_ enough of it you’d see they stand to profit in associated sales but only “break even” on this bit (ergo, it is not really a loss) … the crazy part here is not against apple but against the riaa imo- the riaa should all be taken out back and shot :bad: \*\* No my RR friend i just dont understand why they are complaining if they knew this right from the start to begin with, its like walking into certain death because no one can guarantee them succes the only people here makin money is the :evil: b@stards at the RIAA taking advantage of Apple a company that is trying to grow more in the field and abuse it now they dont only abuse us the consumer but now also companies take those b@stards to hell lets rebel and never buy another music cd again