# Blastphemour **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [November 4, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622 "2003-11-04T16:30:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Laslett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@Laslett](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Laslett)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/1 "2003-11-04T16:30:41Z")
Have MM done over the last few years what MS have done. They bought Drumbeat 2000 (asp visual) that became Ultradev of [fill in company name] Then the bought [Merged] Andromedia and attained software then [Merged] with Allaire [Coldfusion]. Has anyone seen Jeremy recently? Sweepstake on the next merger? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/2 "2003-11-04T16:35:33Z")
they just bought robo-help also…I like Qarbon better than robo-help but they did it. their product is called robo-help but the company is e-help [http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2003/ehelp/?promoid=pu2\_homepage\_ehelp\_102203](http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2003/ehelp/?promoid=pu2_homepage_ehelp_102203) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/3 "2003-11-04T16:46:57Z")
Yep I know Robo Help / Robo Demo. I have copies Fast forward to 2020 two companies run the world MS & MM ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/4 "2003-11-04T16:53:14Z")
not showing any desparation but [http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/hr/reqs/engineering/pw0029.html](http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/hr/reqs/engineering/pw0029.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/5 "2003-11-04T16:53:54Z")
this is not new. MM has been on the MS learning curve for over 5 years… It’s called staying in business… Rev ![](http://aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/6 "2003-11-04T16:57:02Z")
wouldnt mind working for MM…I heard they work unGodly hours tho… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/7 "2003-11-04T18:25:26Z")
The seminars that the technical sales team do are funky. Been to a few and they seem to manage to flump their way through the seminars making a few mistakes here and there. Good job to basically learn the software inside and out. Especially if thats what you do anyway additional bonus getting paid for it. the culture sounds like a a company I worked for for a while called Genient who had a games room. If you needed to stay til 11:00 on a Friday night you did but if there was nothing to do you could go to the games room. So pros and cons. London got to me though so moved out ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/8 "2003-11-04T19:14:41Z")
(MS and MM??) whatttthe ? What about Adobe man, with proggies like PS, Illustrator, Premiere and AfterEffects they’re on top of the league, people =) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/blastphemour/34622/9 "2003-11-04T19:23:54Z")
not really…they actually are on separate ends…with MM dominating the web department…and Adobe dominating image processing. You will find that most design shops are neither 100% adobe or 100% MM. The actually compete against each other in only one department really and that is vector graphics. And I would technically call that a tie between Ill and FH. I have been using both and each has strengths. Fireworks is great also but pales when it comes to PS but it is gaining ground with 04. You need both to be successful and maintain a job.