# Computer Building-More Help? **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [November 19, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376 "2002-11-19T20:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xTrinity\_Luvx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/51bf81/32.png) [@xTrinity\_Luvx](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/xTrinity_Luvx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/1 "2002-11-19T20:17:01Z")
Okay. SOme of you helped me out on some computer stuff the other day on parts, etc and what to get šŸ™‚ THis is ONE of the estimates that the builder gave me on getting a good PC for designing builtā€¦ Umā€¦ He hasnā€™t gotten back to me with what I suggested, but this is what HE suggested for a designing computer \*\*ECS Intel Pentirum 4 Motherboard with Celeron Class 1.7 Proccessor, 333 BUS VIA Chipset Processor 60GB 7200RPM 3D Subwoofer & Speaker Sound Blaster LIVE PCI Adapter AGP Graphic Card 64 MB Adapter CDW Burner 32x12x48 with NEO Software 56K Moden Data Fax Voice 512 SDRam/ DDR Optional\*\* All that came out to about $1000. Which I guess it normal. LOL Does that sound decent?? If any of you computer XPerts have any suggestions, or think that wontā€™ work, pleaseā€¦ input is VERY welcome šŸ™‚ THANKS!!! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/2 "2002-11-19T20:40:47Z")
Iā€™m not a computer hardware pro, but I know DDR is much better than SDRAM! Sorry for the lack of help ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/3 "2002-11-19T20:50:31Z")
If this is for graphics and/or gaming, you dont want a celeron Motherboard, because youā€™ll have to get a celeron processor. (which suck.) Go with a P4, or an Athalon Board and processor. ā€œAGP Graphic Card 64 MB Adapterā€ what kind of card is this? what brand? If you want great graphics, go with an Nvidia Geforce 3 or 4 card, its great =) hmm, if youā€™re looking for cheap prices on some of the best hardware out there, go here [www.pricewatch.com](http://www.pricewatch.com) you can find anything!! =) And if you go with Pricewatch prices, you can easily spend under $1000 and get the best equiptment. if you want i could price some stuff for ya, and tell ya what iā€™d get =) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/4 "2002-11-19T21:15:05Z")
Raydred, could you give me any recomendations for a new computer. But again, only if you have time and want to! Graphics: top of the line Case: anything cool but not too expensive and pointless Memory: top of the line Monitor: Anything with a flat screen and 17" or bigger Processor: top of the line pentium ???: ??? I just donā€™t have a clue about hardwareā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/5 "2002-11-19T21:23:15Z")
Am feeling good with my PC though: Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz Original Intel Motherboard, something 845. 512 MB DDR Ram. Philipā€™s 17" resoulution is really cool, not sure if same in Flat-Panels. Graphic: ATI Offcourse, if u want something for video editing, i would recommened Pinnacle. CD: i liked the combo cd, DVD + CDRW together from hp. h88 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/6 "2002-11-19T22:00:40Z")
Definatly get the DDR ram. Also get an AMD XP much better chip then Pentium and cheaper. Also for a card get a Asus GF4 128 it runs at about $300 but it is worth it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/7 "2002-11-19T22:23:24Z")
> Also get an AMD XP much better chip then Pentium and cheaper. Also for a card get a Asus GF4 128 it runs at about $300 but it is worth it What is the AMD XP? Is that the processorā€¦??? And is the Asus GF4 128 a better Video Card than the Nvidia GeForce 3??? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/8 "2002-11-19T22:23:43Z")
Top of the line eh? P4PE - i845PE chipset, Gigabit LAN, 6 PCI, 1 4X AGP, 3 DIMMSockets, PC2700/PC2100/ mem, Retail Box, Includes Intel P4 3.0 GHz CPU $849.00 ATI Radeon 9700 Pro- Graphics Card 128MB DDR SDRAM - 8x AGP - Dual Head - DVI - TV Out $315.00 512MB PC2700 (DDR333); notoverclocked; 6ns chipset; Bulk/OEM package; LIFE TIME warranty $130.00 (each) Case, as long as its got a good power supply, pick one you like. $75.00-$150.00 Same deal with the Monitor pick one you can stare at for a while. $250.00-$500.00(Tube, expect more for a good LCD) Donā€™t forget about the HDD, CD-R/RW, DVD-ROM(Or DVD-R if cash is not an issue), FDD(Number 1 most forgotten item when building a new system) Keyboard, mouse, etcā€¦ Trinity, Ditch the Celeron, and go with a True P4. The added command sets and power is worth the few extra dollars. Everything else looks about right. Just make sure to find out what graphics card they mean. GeForce 3-4 is supurb. If you plan on capturing/exporting video go with a ATI Radeon All in wonder 8500 or similer. The GF4 is a GeForce 4, and it most likely has more ram, so yes it is a better card. =) Cheers! -Niann ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/9 "2002-11-19T22:30:31Z")
> What is the AMD XP? Is that the processorā€¦??? > And is the Asus GF4 128 a better Video Card than the Nvidia GeForce 3??? Yes AMD is the new line of processors u can get up to a 2.4ghz for $300 or u can go for a smaller one. The Asus GF 4 128 is the same as a GeForce 4 just cheaper around $100 cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/10 "2002-11-19T22:53:04Z")
form what ive heard and seen, the radeon 9700 blows the geforce4 out of the water ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/11 "2002-11-19T23:13:29Z")
Ya the price is also $600. I donā€™t think she will need that much vidoe card. A low end 128 will do nicely. If you want to go crazy then ya the radeon is the way to go.šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/12 "2002-11-19T23:17:06Z")
okay so I contacted my Builder nad told him to change these three thingsā€¦ I hope I got this right \*Athalon Mobo Motherboard and Processor \*512 MB DDR Ram \*Asus GF 4 128 Video Card ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/13 "2002-11-19T23:23:33Z")
Are u still getting a pentium or a AMD? _edit_ Guess I should read a little closer _edit_ What size of proccesor. 1.2 -2.4 ? How big? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/14 "2002-11-19T23:24:22Z")
**[SIZE=4]Pentium[/SIZE]**ā€¦lol ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/15 "2002-11-20T00:20:37Z")
Yeahā€¦ Intelā€¦ But, that just me =) =) Cheers! -Niann ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/16 "2002-11-20T00:30:35Z")
i have talked with a lot of 3D designers and they all say AMD. i saw the 9700 on TechTV and i started to drool! its such a nice board. i gotta up grade this thing soonā€¦although its better than ithoughtā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/17 "2002-11-20T01:33:16Z")
**FOR NIANN** You seem to be pretty knowlegeableā€¦ what would you pick between these two grfx cards: Matrox Parhelia 128MB Radeon 9700 128MB I will be using for mainly design and graphic work on a multi screen setup, not so much gaming. Peace ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/18 "2002-11-20T02:46:23Z")
Dan, yea iā€™ll price ya a machine =) I think i know what you want =) a gamming machine / graphics machine (cause why would you want a computer if you dont do graphics?! lol) =) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/19 "2002-11-20T02:58:37Z")
Phil is right with Intel you are buying a name not a processor. Brand Names will cost u no matter what u buy. AMD doesnā€™t seem to gouge u for there name. Plus it is a more stable chip than an Intel ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376/20 "2002-11-20T03:01:20Z")
What do you mean I donā€™t do graphics, thatā€™s all I do on my computer; besides download music and talk on AIM. This need to be able to use 3ds max to itā€™s full extent. My problem right now is memory and my crappy TNT2 64MB graphcis card and my _cough_SDRAM_cough_ So you think you could hook me up with some info on those specifications. Any more help then you can message me on AIM. Thanks again bro! [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/computer-building-more-help/8376.md?page=2)