# Creating another instance, in exactly the same position as a current one
**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489
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**Created:** [April 5, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489 "2003-04-05T21:55:01Z")
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### Author:  [@RobinL](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/RobinL)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489/1 "2003-04-05T21:55:01Z")
Sorry for all the bad question i seem to be posing here, I think im improving slowly though =)
I have a carfully constructed shape that i have made from about 50 symbols. At fram 50 in my timeline i want all the symbols to become graphics rather than movies. I am looking for a better way to acieve this than creating a new instance, and posistioing it in the right place for each symbol.
Thanks,
Robin
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489/2 "2003-04-06T05:04:32Z")
why dont you take all your symbols, group them and turn them into a graphic? By doing that, you’re dealing with one graphic that has one \_x and one \_y… does that not work for you?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2003, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489/3 "2003-04-06T09:16:44Z")
hey,
that doesn’t work becuase (And this was probably a bad idea) the shape is constructed of 5 symbols, and those 5 symbols are each made up of 6 symbols!
I did it manually eventually.
Maybe rather than making symbols containing symbols i should have made a group? The only reason I did it was so it would be quicker to make the finished shape, but I think it would probably have worked with a group
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/creating-another-instance-in-exactly-the-same-position-as-a-current-one/17489/4 "2003-04-06T14:37:43Z")
you can select all your symbols and make a new graphic from them. If you then edit your new graphic, the symbols inside it will be intact, just like a movie clip. It is far easier to do it this way. So, you were on the right track, and it’s okay to use your symbols like that, but I still would have made them one, at least to accomplish what you described.
Good luck.