# \[css\] some basic css issues **URL:** \ **Category:** web dev\ **Created:** [April 24, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/css-some-basic-css-issues/186817 "2006-04-24T20:36:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![understudy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@understudy](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/understudy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/css-some-basic-css-issues/186817/1 "2006-04-24T20:36:40Z")
[SIZE=2]hello, i working on a lower navigational menu. you can see it here: [http://bradhenderson.com/](http://bradhenderson.com/) what i’d like is for both lines of the LOWER navigational menu to be centered, and for there to be the vertical character | between the elements instead of using a background image (the vertical line is currently an image). the css can be seen in the source of the page. thanks for taking a look. my best, david[/SIZE] ---
**Author:** ![bwh2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bwh2](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/bwh2)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/css-some-basic-css-issues/186817/2 "2006-04-25T03:28:35Z")
well, i would use a border-left/border-right combo for the | (btw, that’s a pipe), not an image or pipe. then, since you already have the bottom nav inside a table, i would just align the td cell to center. also, close your \ and \ tags. ---
**Author:** ![understudy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@understudy](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/understudy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/css-some-basic-css-issues/186817/3 "2006-04-25T23:09:12Z")
thank you, i got rid of the tables and added a border-left to take care of the vertical line, but i’m still not sure how to center both lines of the bottom navigational menu. thanks once more. my best, david