# Design destiny **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [February 11, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342 "2003-02-11T23:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/21 "2003-02-12T01:12:08Z")
Well… You guys ahve so much help for Graphic Designers… What about us lonely programmers…? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/22 "2003-02-12T01:15:01Z")
Weird… I don’t know what’s up with that. You can still access it at [http://www.pixelsensei.com/cgi-bin/dl/](http://www.pixelsensei.com/cgi-bin/dl/) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/23 "2003-02-12T01:17:48Z")
> \*Originally posted by playamarz \* > \*\*Well… You guys ahve so much help for Graphic Designers… What about us lonely programmers…? \*\* Actually these days - I’m seeing a merging of web design and programming. If this trend continues, you might have to pick up some design skills and these tips would work out for you too 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/24 "2003-02-12T01:21:30Z")
I was lucky I worked my way up. I started out as a video game tester now I am a developer plus freelancer. I live in the technology mecca and it is ruthless out here so take what you can get. Remember you are selling yourself. I am going to give this little tidbit out to everyone. Develop a digital business card. I have made myself some cds, flash presentation put a nice label on it. And I mail that to clients, maybe you could do the same with a job. It really made the difference for me. Do something to elevate yourself above others. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/25 "2003-02-12T01:24:15Z")
I know everything from C++ Programming for DirectX to PHP, HTML DHTML JavaScript ASP and all that stuff… But… What does Designing and Graphic Arts have todo with Programming? That’s my dilemna… I used to be very good at designing… Graphics and everything… Freehand drawing and all that good stuff… But it’s slipped lately… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/26 "2003-02-12T21:06:53Z")
> \*Originally posted by playamarz \* > **But… What does Designing and Graphic Arts have todo with Programming?** I don’t know… but I think someone out there decided to make us (“internet folks”) do more work and in some cases, less pay. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/27 "2003-02-12T22:13:57Z")
If you know like ASP and Coldfusion or some other web language then you really boost your stock. Since the web is still one of the biggest growing professions. Alot of legacy systems are going to web. Now people want Cool lookin Smart websites. If you can do both you save them from having to hire 2 folks plus boost your pay and value. I myself and pretty good with ASP Coldfusion and some javascript. On top of my design knowledge PS 7 FW 3DS SV3…makes my company very happy. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342/28 "2003-02-12T22:19:47Z")
> \*Originally posted by 3d-iva \* > \*\*If you know like ASP and Coldfusion or some other web language then you really boost your stock. Since the web is still one of the biggest growing professions. Alot of legacy systems are going to web. Now people want Cool lookin Smart websites. If you can do both you save them from having to hire 2 folks plus boost your pay and value. I myself and pretty good with ASP Coldfusion and some javascript. On top of my design knowledge PS 7 FW 3DS SV3…makes my company very happy. \*\* That’s what I’m saying. Most companies nowadays don’t just look for “programmers” or “web designers” like they used to… they require you to have a solid grasp of both. [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/design-destiny/13342.md?page=1)