# Do you really call this art?

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**Created:** [September 29, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831 "2004-09-29T22:00:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheRhoPsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@TheRhoPsi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheRhoPsi)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/1 "2004-09-29T22:00:59Z")

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I’m curious what the general consensus thinks about this article:

[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3701484.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3701484.stm)

I know, it’s a 4-year old doing this, but the paintings just seem like random splotches of paint on a big canvas. Would any of you, given you have the resources, pay for something like this to hang on your wall?

I know somewhere in Soho, there’s a painting that consists of 3 big blocks of colors that’s selling for millions.

Is this what we consider contemporary art now?

Now a rant, just curious.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/2 "2004-09-29T22:06:43Z")

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I think its art, but I’m not amazed or inspired by it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/3 "2004-09-29T22:12:05Z")

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Do you consider Pollock’s work art?

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/4 "2004-09-29T22:17:48Z")

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I think that his is art too.

I’m not impressed by his stuff either though…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/5 "2004-09-29T22:22:32Z")

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what the hell is dat…

if u call that art you have gone mad

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/6 "2004-09-29T22:49:22Z")

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it’s all about context. although i agree with all of you in saying “I HATE IT!”, when looking at pollack, you must analyze the context in which he created his works. he was a troubled person with many problems and somehow, he found throwing paint in an expressive way was quite cathartic. dunno about this little girl though… anyone her age could do it, it’s nothing special… maybe she’s an alcoholic or a serious drug-addict and is going psychotic…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/7 "2004-09-29T22:52:19Z")

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> [@the related article](#):
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> oblivious to the whole thing

I think if the “artist” is oblivious to the art, it does not qualify as art. If I drop a turd that looks like Abe Lincoln, are you gonna buy it? I think it’s a big lame load of crap. When she seriously can explain her art then I will call it art.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/8 "2004-09-29T23:03:30Z")

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she’s the next pollock, shame on her!!! art = structured… Mess = abstract

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/9 "2004-09-29T23:04:06Z")

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> [@http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3701484.stm](#):
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> paintings that are drawing comparisons with Jackson Pollock and Wassily Kandinsky

well, especially this sentence makes this a load of cr\*p. to “art” of the 4-year-old is drawing comparisons, meaning resembles the art of other artists. this type of art (i assume some abstract thingy) can only be called “art” when it’s something that hasn’t been done before, not something that resembles another work.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/10 "2004-09-29T23:12:07Z")

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the look on her face puzzles me, it seems like she’s only painting to please her parents…

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/11 "2004-09-29T23:15:57Z")

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holy crap, i want my future kid to rake in money from their drawings lol

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/12 "2004-09-29T23:22:49Z")

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crap…

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/13 "2004-09-30T00:02:23Z")

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> [@SlowRoasted](#):
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> holy crap, i want my future kid to rake in money from their drawings lol

why don’t you do it yourself? :hr:

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/14 "2004-09-30T00:45:21Z")

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in recent times pretty much anything is called an “art”, like that guy in newsweek that glued together six thousand dead rats…I am not kidding.  
She’s four years old painting…good for her, but in comparison to other children in her age group I am pretty certain that it is nothing spectacular or out of the norm.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/15 "2004-09-30T00:47:12Z")

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The rat thing could be useful for those people in NY who are apparently suffering from rat problems.

(If each person glued together 9 rats…)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/16 "2004-09-30T02:58:32Z")

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yup its art

[http://wicked6th.com/biospectrio/](http://wicked6th.com/biospectrio/) \< thats art too

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/17 "2004-09-30T03:11:30Z")

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it has no appeal to me. it is not art to me.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/18 "2004-09-30T04:20:40Z")

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Its obvious that what we define as art is not what paint artists define as art. Ask yourself why people are paying for her work if your guys think its not.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 4:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/19 "2004-09-30T04:37:55Z")

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Popculture, because their click thinks it’s cool. I had a pair of Z cavariccis in 7th grade, only because they were cool. So whatever they want to be cool will be cool, but it’s not true, gallery class art to me.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/do-you-really-call-this-art/65831/20 "2004-09-30T08:01:25Z")

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…nonetheless, abstraction **can** be good **if it’s done right** :

> **[en-tyrael's DeviantArt gallery](http://en-tyrael.deviantart.com/gallery/)**
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