# Does anyone else see anything wrong with this statment? **URL:** \ **Category:** talk\ **Created:** [July 16, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731 "2003-07-16T01:24:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RussianBeer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/russianbeer/32/152_2.png) [@RussianBeer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/RussianBeer)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/1 "2003-07-16T01:24:03Z")
> Clampdown on Internet Subversives - President says “we must stop this evil spread of ideas” Washington 6/1/03 In a far reaching announcement today, President Bush announced that an imminent clampdown into the dissemination of subversive and dangerous ideas via the Internet. Announcing this new initiative alongside director Tom Ridge, the president said: “We must stop this evil spread of ideas. Far too many people are being exposed to thoughts and concepts that challenge those things this administration stands for. The Internet is clearly an example of outmoded liberal ideas gone badly out of control.” Director Ridge added: “It is unfair for the federal government to pass the burden of this onto tax-payers and citizens. Instead, we are proposing that the cost be shared between web site publishers and those minority of the population who visit such things. Screening this information is expensive and those costs must be passed on.” The proposed charges will be in the region of $100 per web page to be analysed for content and 10 cents per page viewed by visitors, this charge will go towards an upgrade to the Carnivore systems already in place. Sites belonging to government agencies are exempt, as are sites belong to Fortune 500 companies - Director Ridge said “We can trust major corporations to always act in the interests of the United States, so we do not propose to screen their content. However, in the current climate of terrorist threats we must consider everyone else to be a potential subversive”. If this is true, can anyone confirm, because this I find highly disturbing… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/2 "2003-07-16T01:30:29Z")
Not true. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/3 "2003-07-16T01:53:58Z")
I don’t think that is true either - I remember reading on some political site that Bill O’Reilly was interested in having something like this (minus the monetary charge of course). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 6:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/4 "2003-07-16T06:52:34Z")
Thanks, thats what I though… funny tough… :trout: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/5 "2003-07-16T17:52:44Z")
Not funny :(. I was a little scared. You really had me goin’ there Russian :thumb:. Cya! :pope: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/6 "2003-07-17T18:43:46Z")
That certainly would be disastrous! Besides I’m sure that Bush wouldn’t be able to force countries outside of the USA to follow a law like that. There is always a chance something like this could happen in the future. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/7 "2003-07-17T18:58:12Z")
> \*Originally posted by Ranoka \* > \*\*That certainly would be disastrous! Besides I’m sure that Bush wouldn’t be able to force countries outside of the USA to follow a law like that. There is always a chance something like this could happen in the future. \*\* Well we did force Japan to stop kiddie p0rn. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/8 "2003-07-17T19:04:36Z")
Nah - the chances of a law such as this being passed by Congress and approved by the Supreme Court are very slim. Bills often get introduced, and they often in the same frequency get overturned by the courts. Also, it’s very difficult from a technical point of view to enforce this :asian: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/does-anyone-else-see-anything-wrong-with-this-statment/25731/9 "2003-07-25T12:46:25Z")
but do you know the sadest thing? …would anyone be surprised if he did introduce this? lets face it, it’s certainly not out of character! oh and here the link to the original site - it is bogus. [http://subj.com/dhs/](http://subj.com/dhs/)