# Dropdown menus and html pages

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**Created:** [July 5, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844 "2003-07-05T22:15:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/1 "2003-07-05T22:15:36Z")

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OK, Me and RB are both stuck on this one. Our clients want their websites in html, and their header and dropdown menus in flash. Is there anyway to get the menu to dropdown over html like every good menu should? Cuz all I can think of is  
A. not having any text or anything in the dropdown area, and just making the menu LOOK like the html bg  
or  
B. making the swf transparent, which as we all know, doesn’t work in netscape, cuz netscape sux ActionBalls.

Something inside me is saying there must be a better way. Only. I don’t know it.

Thanks for any help.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/2 "2003-07-05T22:33:14Z")

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well if the content and the flash are going to clash then i don’t believe you can. i was going to say just make your flash movie a class with a different z-index, but that won’t work. you are going to have to design around this problem i would say

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/3 "2003-07-05T22:35:57Z")

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hmm… thats kinda hard…

I dont think you can… or at least I dont have any idea :-\

sorry,  
Aditya

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/4 "2003-07-05T22:37:16Z")

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you can’t make the Flash movie go outside of the stage…

there will be a space where the drop down will go, that you can’t have HTML …

Try using DHTML drop downs instead…

and BTW - Netscape was the first… IE came in with a \<u\>ton\</u\> of security issues… Newer Netscape with the Newest Player will see the transparency, or so I have been told… but it still won’t work on Macs… I think…

Rev ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/5 "2003-07-05T23:44:42Z")

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yeah i would just use DHTML

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/6 "2003-07-05T23:46:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Digitalosophy \*  
> \*\*yeah i would just use DHTML \*\*

I would assume that it would be a lot easier… and would be viewed relatively the same across platforms and browsers…

JMO tho.

Rev

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/7 "2003-07-05T23:58:01Z")

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thanks guys. but i dont like DHTMl cuz it doesn’t work in all browsers. pfft. :sigh:

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/8 "2003-07-06T00:02:51Z")

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I think you could use css with div tags and use the z-positioning. Be sure to make background of the swf invisible.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/9 "2003-07-06T00:03:58Z")

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It does if you code it properly!

It’s going to be the only way to do what you want…

Rev ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif)

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/10 "2003-07-06T00:10:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by reverendflash \*  
> \*\*It does if you code it properly!  
> \*\*

well, that’s debateable. i’ve had it not work properly in older versions of opera. maybe it was coded wrong though, i dunno.

in anycase, i think i figured out what i’m going to do. i dunno about russian beer, but then again, his client is an azzhole, who i’m gonna beat up if they give him anymore stress.

but this is my solution, just design around, and have no words overlapping the menu, and match the swf to the html, and then just use the swf as a table bg.

everything in the world should be flash. everything.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/11 "2003-07-06T00:14:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Digitalosophy \*  
> \*\* you are going to have to design around this problem i would say \*\*

🙂

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/12 "2003-07-06T00:16:00Z")

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yeah digital, i saw that 😉  
i’m just a rude selfabsorbed blitch who forgot to say thanks  
sowwy :flower:

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/13 "2003-07-06T00:19:47Z")

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Too hard to do it with css? 🙂

(not that I’m such a css guru:P)

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/14 "2003-07-06T00:21:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by redGolgi \*  
> \*\*yeah digital, i saw that 😉  
> i’m just a rude selfabsorbed blitch who forgot to say thanks  
> sowwy :flower: \*\*

o man ur funny, thats not really what i meant. i kinda even forgot i mentioned that, i went off on the DTML tanget with revised.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/15 "2003-07-06T00:21:27Z")

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no, but if i do it in css, it would have to be transparent, and transparency doesn’t work in netscape. ☹

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/dropdown-menus-and-html-pages/24844/16 "2003-07-06T03:46:51Z")

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well… u can use fireworks or something. I think it uses Javascript to do it. And as I have see, the script works even in Netscape 4.0!

so u might want to look into “Macromedia Fireworks”

-Aditya
