# Effectively Lifting Weights **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [July 6, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208 "2008-07-06T04:52:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/21 "2008-07-07T17:52:41Z")
> [@Syous;2354782](#): > > You work in web design bud, appearance matters a whole lot. 8) Can’t argue with that (but I prize functionality over appearance). :sen: > ``` I work out because I sit on my *** in front of the computer every day. ``` Well, I can relate to that. I guess my 11 month old’s antics give me enough exercise to feel pretty good. I just think kids in high school need all of the character development they can get, and I am not at all convinced that this is going to happen in a gym. ![](http://forum.kirupa.com/uploads/kirupa/7042/91207d92b1cb2eba.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NeoDreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@NeoDreamer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/NeoDreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/22 "2008-07-07T18:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=actionAction;2354780]America’s [our] issue here is being superficial[/QUOTE] In the ideal world, you can survive being an obese gorilla, but this is the real world. In the real world, people judge based on appearances. People always talk about the ideal world - build your character, don’t care about what people think about you, etc… - but that’s not how the world works. Sure, these principles would be nice to follow, but they’d only be fruitful if _everyone_ was following them. What’s the point of thinking to yourself “hey, I only care about my inside” when everyone around you don’t give an F about your insides? That’s the cold hard truth. ---
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/23 "2008-07-07T18:25:55Z")
> [@NeoDreamer;2354793](#): > > Sure, these principles would be nice to follow, but they’d only be fruitful if _everyone_ was following them. you assume that I care about fruit. > [@NeoDreamer](#): > > What’s the point of thinking to yourself “hey, I only care about my inside” when everyone around you don’t give an F about your insides? That’s the cold hard truth. seriously? you must be pretty snowed and/or young. as for the real world…that’s just a show on mtv. we are all relegated to the confines of our subjective experience, so until we all agree on every infinitesimal detail of the known and unknown universe (far beyond agreeing on who is a better choice for American Idol), there is no such thing. reality encompasses what you choose to (or not to) accept, I choose to not get caught up in the fiction you subscribe to. so what is the point of caring about what everyone around me thinks about me, if I truly care about me? ---
**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/24 "2008-07-07T19:30:10Z")
you selfish jerk :lol: ---
**Author:** ![shane\_c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@shane\_c](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/shane_c)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/25 "2008-07-07T19:34:46Z")
Caring what you look like isn’t shallow, and going to a gym isn’t a waste of time if it makes you happy. > [@actionAction;2354769](#): > > lifting weights isn’t going to make you healthier, or even stronger really Do you really believe that? ---
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/26 "2008-07-07T19:46:21Z")
> [@MTsoul;2354844](#): > > you selfish jerk :lol: 😃 moi? > [@shane-c](#): > > ``` > Caring what you look like isn't shallow > > ``` hmmmm…I don’t believe I stated anywhere that caring what you look like is shallow, but since you are counterpointing a point I didn’t make, I will retroactively note that caring about what you look like is fertile ground for kiddie pool type personality depth. The two are not necessarily bound to one another, but there is definitely a causal relationship somewhere in there. > [@shane-c](#): > > and going to a gym isn’t a waste of time if it makes you happy. happiness is always a waste of time (it’s so fun to be contrary :party:) > Do you really believe that? Well I don’t not believe it. Perhaps my statement was too broad, but the fact is that the muscle mass built by weight lifting is not practical strength, unless you plan on applying it to real world bus lifting applications, or something equivalent. I doubt you are going to be sitting at your desk at work and have to squat 500 lbs. by noon to land that big account. ---
**Author:** ![sekasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@sekasi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sekasi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/27 "2008-07-07T20:04:24Z")
Why are you trying to argue that getting in good shape is anything else but positive. Too many people walk around with a beer-gut and have problems with their arteries because of crappy diet and sitting still all day. Gyms are a practical and convenient method of getting healthier. And look better (that is, lose the gut) even IF some people go just to look pretty, so what? In the process they are becoming healthier? ---
**Author:** ![shane\_c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@shane\_c](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/shane_c)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/28 "2008-07-07T20:06:56Z")
action, I don’t remember directing that first sentence at you, but thanks for the detailed and sassy response to my general statement, anyway. “Muscle mass built by weight lifting is not practical strength”… What is practical strength? As you said, most of us don’t need to do squats at work. But for those of us that enjoy playing basketball, football, biking, hiking, climbing, or any other recreational activity that involves legs, you can be ■■■■ sure doing squats will help you perform better. I understand the idea behind what you’re saying, but I think you made it so broad that it became really ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/29 "2008-07-07T20:25:11Z")
[quote=shane-c;2354870]action, I don’t remember directing that first sentence at you, but thanks for the detailed and sassy response to my general statement, anyway.[/quote]:lol: hahaha > I understand the idea behind what you’re saying, but I think you made it so broad that it became really ridiculous. > This is true, very true. I got off topic, which I frequently do, just having fun though. Apologies if I have offended anyone. Back to my actual point… > [@sekasi](#): > > ``` > Why are you trying to argue that getting in good shape is anything else but positive. > > ``` I’m not, see: > [@actionAction](#): > > exercise = yes Just discussing motivations and alternatives, that is all. > [@sekasi](#): > > Gyms are a practical and convenient method of getting healthier. And look better (that is, lose the gut) Sorry, I don’t accept convenience as an argument, McDonalds is a practical and convenient alternative to making a healthy meal at home. Convenience is what lead to fat people in the first place (kind of broad, but mostly true). ---
**Author:** ![sekasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@sekasi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sekasi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/30 "2008-07-07T20:28:51Z")
[QUOTE=actionAction;2354877]Sorry, I don’t accept convenience as an argument, McDonalds is a practical and convenient alternative to making a healthy meal at home. Convenience is what lead to fat people in the first place (kind of broad, but mostly true).[/QUOTE] Eeeeeeeeeeeeeehmmmmmmmmmmm I think you’re smoking too much Afghan. If something is convenient to work out with/at then that will increase the likelyness of someone working out with it/at it. ---
**Author:** ![randomagain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@randomagain](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/randomagain)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/31 "2008-07-07T20:31:53Z")
no pain no gain 😛 I need to work out more ---
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/32 "2008-07-07T20:34:38Z")
[quote=sekasi;2354880]Eeeeeeeeeeeeeehmmmmmmmmmmm I think you’re smoking too much Afghan. [/quote]probably true > [@sekasi](#): > > If something is convenient to work out with/at then that will increase the likelyness of someone working out with it/at it. definitely true ---
**Author:** ![simplistik](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/simplistik/32/7747_2.png) [@simplistik](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/simplistik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/33 "2008-07-07T20:56:06Z")
:lol: this thread went from good and informative to nearly useless really quick. i like how above it was generalized that only Americans go to the gym and/or look in mirrors. There is no set time to rest your muscles, but you do want to keep your workout on a rotation to give them time to heal and rebuild. When I did work out, I did almost the exact rotation as sekasi, with the exception that I always worked out my abs. ---
**Author:** ![actionAction](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/actionaction/32/3987_2.png) [@actionAction](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/actionAction)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/34 "2008-07-07T21:03:23Z")
Yeah, I just bought this thing and I was itching to use it. ![](http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/soapbox/soapbox.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![zao](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/zao/32/141_2.png) [@zao](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/zao)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/35 "2008-07-07T21:04:29Z")
I think I mention this every time someone makes an exercise thread. DIET DIET DIET. Your diet has A LOT to do with the recovery period and will ultimate give you the results you might not otherwise see. Diet and exercise is a marriage, and it’s hard to do one without the other, that is to get the “best” results. ---
**Author:** ![shane\_c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@shane\_c](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/shane_c)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/36 "2008-07-07T21:09:35Z")
^ Yes. And if building muscle is your goal, then PROTEIN PROTEIN PROTEIN. Eat chicken. A lot. Buy protein shakes and drink them. Like others have said, working out does nothing if you don’t give your body what it needs to grow muscles. I need to get back in the gym… I haven’t actually lifted weights regularly in a few months now. That sucks… And now I’m depressed. ---
**Author:** ![simplistik](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/simplistik/32/7747_2.png) [@simplistik](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/simplistik)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/37 "2008-07-07T21:27:00Z")
[QUOTE=actionAction;2354909]Yeah, I just bought this thing and I was itching to use it. ![](http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/soapbox/soapbox.jpg)[/QUOTE] :lol: clearly Also on another note, PLEASE if you’re exercising work out your lower body too. There’s nothing more retarded than seeing these jungle gym freaks cause they don’t work out their lower body. A jungle gym freak is someone w/ a huge upper body and chicken legs, so retarded. ---
**Author:** ![shane\_c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@shane\_c](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/shane_c)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/38 "2008-07-07T21:39:32Z")
^ Ha, yes, I love those guys. ---
**Author:** ![DDD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DDD](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/DDD)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/39 "2008-07-07T22:01:51Z")
> [@NeoDreamer;2354135](#): > > When I havn’t lifted weights for a long time, I get sore the day after even when lifting relatively low amounts. If I continue to work out the same muscles every 48 hours as a routine, I stop feeling the soreness. Does soreness equate to muscle building or am I still building muscle even when not feeling anything the day after? Sorry if it has been answered before. But soreness is not always indicative of growth. And vice versa. I can also be a sign of fatigue, poor diet, improper technique. There are a few things that give to that. I work out so often now that I rarely get sore. But the most important thing is that I see gains and vary my exercises and muscle groups. Also another factor is rest intervals. If you dont rest enough between muscle groups the muscle tissue is not fully healed there for you are tear tissue that was already torn so no pain. Also dont let yourself plateau. That is another source of no pain. Like I said I read no other posts. Maybe I should have :lol: ---
**Author:** ![NeoDreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@NeoDreamer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/NeoDreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208/40 "2008-07-07T22:26:27Z")
[QUOTE=DDD;2354936]Also dont let yourself plateau. Like I said I read no other posts. Maybe I should have :lol:[/QUOTE] What’s plateau? And don’t read page 2, cause it stuffed fuller of Ad Hominem attacks than a Crispy Creme donut is stuffed with lard. :asleep: [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/effectively-lifting-weights/265208.md?page=3)