# Fall of Lucifer **URL:** \ **Category:** talk\ **Created:** [July 1, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215 "2004-07-01T17:01:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Axel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6de8d8/32.png) [@Axel](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Axel)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215/1 "2004-07-01T17:01:50Z")
Hey everyone, with the new movie “Exorcist the Beginning” Coming out, (Talks about the Fall of Satan), I was wondering who has read the book by John Milton, called [color=black]Paradise Lost[/color][color=black] ? P.S. [http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/exorcist\_the\_beginning/](http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/exorcist_the_beginning/)[/color] [color=black] 2advanced Studios has created another marvel: [http://exorcistthebeginning.warnerbros.com/](http://exorcistthebeginning.warnerbros.com/) ;)[/color][color=black] [/color] ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215/2 "2004-07-07T14:45:55Z")
I read what was supposed to be the interesting part of “Paradise Lost” a few years ago in school. I never read the entire book, and since I found the portion of the book I read to be too boring, I don’t have any regrets about not reading the rest of the book! Btw, do you have a broader discussion you want to start about the content of the book? If not, I’ll move this to Random in a few hours :book: Cheers! Kirupa :crazy: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215/3 "2004-07-07T20:22:45Z")
Read Paradise Lost in a class called “Concepts Of Humanism” at Oxford. Actaully Paradise Lost is more about the Free will of man vs. predestination than it is about “satan” ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215/4 "2004-07-07T23:32:57Z")
Classic Calvinism vs. Armenism. Weird crap. How do you know you aren’t just living a life that has already happened? If you had an extradimensional perception of the universe, with a full dimension of time (we exist in a 1/2 dimension of time) there is no beginning and end (alpha and omega?), and time doesn’t exist. It is percieved the same as the X, Y and Z axis. \ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/fall-of-lucifer/56215/5 "2004-07-17T01:29:47Z")
Bazoo zoo… Bazoo zoo…