# Findal / SOTW Reconsideration

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [August 2, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078 "2004-08-02T17:12:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/1 "2004-08-02T17:12:01Z")

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Hey everyone,  
Well Findal, the one whose entry ([http://www.fndzinz.com/](http://www.fndzinz.com/)) was disqualifed last week because of not containing enough Flash, has sent me this response:

> \<FONT face=“Times New Roman” size=3\>Aw man…  
> Gggs, thats not what I thought you were gonna say.  
> I ask you to please reconsider , as if it’s 50%, In really thought I beat  
> that and the 80% mark too. I use flash on the main page, right up to the  
> logo and in the menus; YES, which are repeated on every page in the html.  
> BUT, while there are 8 linked pages that are just plain html while using all  
> those FLASH menus, there are 15 FLASH Example SWF pages, 4 FLASH photo  
> Albums, one of which has over 400 pix, and there are 6 other FLASH examples  
> under the heading ‘projects’. The creel survey and Display can be added to  
> the list as more FLASH too. I assume that it’s evident that the 2 news  
> displays on main page are flash, as is the weather display.  
> 🙂  
> Just as a bit of info what this sites stats are too 🙂  
> Which shows that I serve up a majority of …swf

```
  File Type Report
  File Type Requests % Bytes
  .swf 23807 18.446% 47.621 47.621%
  .jpg 24719 19.153% 24.425 24.425%
  .MOV 52 0.040% 9.935 9.935%
  .php 18214 14.113% 4.633 4.633%
  .JPG 374 0.290% 4.463 4.463%
  .mp3 27 0.021% 2.737 2.737%
  .xml 5903 4.574% 1.658 1.658%
  .html 5211 4.038% 1.513 1.513%
  [directories] 2974 2.304% 1.055 1.055%
  .gif 18896 14.641% 0.932 0.932%
  .txt 11463 8.882% 0.487 0.487%
  .css 13596 10.535% 0.390 0.390%
  [not listed: 5] 3824 2.963% 0.153 0.153%

```

For the majority of instances, FLASH uses the php, xml,mp3,text, css and the  
.jpg as content feeds.

Any way, I know you gotta make a call, but after all the times I got heck  
for “So Much Flash” in my sites, its a bit ironic to hear its not enough. 😉  
\<SCRIPT\>\<!–D([“mb”,“Especially  
when there is way more time to spend looking at FLASH on my site  
than other  
things. I try to incorperate it in different ways, replacing php  
or html  
script output in a more graphical manner.  
I'm just a guy trying to pimp my  
site and stretch my portfolio and maybe get  
a job.  
  
Thanks for  
reconsidering and letting me know .  
  
Findal  
  
  
----- Original  
Message -----   
From: "Kirupa Chinnathambi" \<&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href=”“"mailto:kirupa@gmail.com" target="\_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,this)"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;kirupa@gmail.com&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;\>  
To: "Findal @ kirupaForum" \<&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href=”“"mailto:findal@fndzinz.com" target="\_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,this)"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;findal@fndzinz.com&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;\>  
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:22 PM  
Subject: Re: Site of the  
Week  
  
  
\> Hello Findal!  
\> A site, in order to be qualified for  
SOTW, needs to be at least 50%  
\> Flash. The mods and I decided after  
seeing your site that only the  
\> main page and the navigation were done in  
Flash. That unfortunately  
\> makes your site ineligible for  
SOTW.  
\>  
\> Cheers!  
\> Kirupa =)  
\>  
\> On Sat, 31 Jul  
2004 18:09:12 -0700, Findal @ kirupaForum  
\> \<&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href=”“"mailto:findal@fndzinz.com" target="\_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,this)"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;findal@fndzinz.com&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;\>  
wrote:  
\> \> This is a message from Findal at kirupaForum (  
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href=”“"[http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/index.php\](http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/index.php%5C)” target="\_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,this)"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;[http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/index.php\&lt;/font\&gt;\&lt;/a\&gt;\[font=\"Times][size=\“3\”\]](http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/index.php%5C&lt;/font%5C&gt;%5C&lt;/a%5C&gt;%5C%5Bfont=%5C%22Times%5D%5Bsize=%5C%223%5C%22%5C%5D) ). The kirupaForum owners cannot  
accept any  
responsibility for the contents of the email.  
",1]);//–\>\</SCRIPT\>Especially when there is way more time to spend looking at FLASH on my site  
than other things. I try to incorperate it in different ways, replacing php  
or html script output in a more graphical manner.  
I’m just a guy trying to pimp my site and stretch my portfolio and maybe get  
a job.

Thanks for reconsidering and letting me know .

Findal[/size][/font]

I still don’t see how using one giant Flash form makes the site any more Flash-based. Even using a Flash menu, most of his site is still HTML.

:sigh:

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**Author:** ![mdipi](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/mdipi/32/49_2.png) [@mdipi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/mdipi)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/2 "2004-08-02T17:18:30Z")

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Yeah i agree this is not 50% Flash.

To me i see 5 frames, 2 are Flash. Thats not 50%.

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**Author:** ![eyezberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@eyezberg](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/eyezberg)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/3 "2004-08-02T18:24:59Z")

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The site had no chance of winning anytime soon anyway, just tell him that.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/4 "2004-08-08T20:10:22Z")

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[http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=597538#post597538](http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=597538#post597538)

He just won’t stop 🐇

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/5 "2004-08-08T22:20:25Z")

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:lol: and he voted himself (80%) :lol:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/6 "2004-08-08T23:14:50Z")

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I voted for 30% 😛

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**Author:** ![soulty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/soulty/32/105_2.png) [@soulty](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/soulty)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/findal-sotw-reconsideration/118078/7 "2004-08-09T02:28:25Z")

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lol, i wouldnt bother 😛