# Game design(programs)

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/game-design-programs/160926>\
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**Created:** [August 30, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/game-design-programs/160926 "2005-08-30T18:38:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Rahl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Lord\_Rahl](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Lord_Rahl)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/game-design-programs/160926/1 "2005-08-30T18:38:18Z")

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Okay, a friend of myne wants to get into game design. I told him to stick to simple stuff first, but he insisted and said he knows more than I think. So he asked what or where he should start with. A game engine like [color=#003366][Game Maker, [color=black]or[/color] [url=“http://www.3dstate.com/”]3D State, [/color][color=black]etc. Or should he get a team or create his own engine. I told him if he is going to use a game engine, get [url=“http://www.garagegames.com/”]torque](http://gamemaker.nl/). Its a great engine, and can go detailed. But he doesn’t want to pay $100 unless completly necessary. (Money needed somewhere in here for a good game :ponder: ) But anyways, hes over hanging out and is **still** at the moment, persisting I ask on forums for recomendations and program names and locations. _sigh_[/color]  
Never listens. :puzzle: [color=black]  
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