# Good Parts of Communism?

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**Created:** [September 4, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175 "2003-09-04T19:05:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yeldarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/51bf81/32.png) [@Yeldarb](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Yeldarb)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/1 "2003-09-04T19:05:54Z")

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i’ve been looking for good parts of communism for a school project, but cant find any. all i find is anti-communist sites… is there _anything_ good about communism?

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/2 "2003-09-04T19:07:50Z")

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Me.😛

I’m a commie.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/3 "2003-09-04T19:10:56Z")

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i found this… but it’s not much help  
[www.cpusa.com](http://www.cpusa.com)  
at some parts i wanted to rip my monitor apart because these people’s ideas are so WRON-- misguided…  
i couldnt find them say anything really good, all they did was defend themselves, but they didn’t really do that good of a job…

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/4 "2003-09-04T19:11:50Z")

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Well, I did live in China for the beginning years of my life, so, I have a pretty good idea on whats going on over there.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/5 "2003-09-04T19:12:37Z")

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it’s good in theory.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/6 "2003-09-04T19:13:54Z")

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From what I been through, life isn’t much different. The government isn’t strict at all, for all I know, life was the same there as it was here. The only difference would be if you’re an adult in the government stuff, I think thats the only problem.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/7 "2003-09-04T19:14:32Z")

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Your best bet is to read the early works of the Communist revolution esspecially Marx. Back then it was an ideal not a regime. The even steven feel Communism is supposed to have was merely corrupted to the point where it did more harm than good.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/8 "2003-09-04T19:15:05Z")

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In the strictest theoretic model -\> Yes

…all for one … one for all …

(read: commune / co-op)

…but in practice, most people will allways strive to be _king of the hill_ and therefore it becomes a virtual impossibility

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/9 "2003-09-04T19:15:13Z")

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yeah, but the fact that people are lazy by nature makes it all screwed up, plus, it doesn’t even sound good in theory, the only people it would be good for are the people who are REALLY poor, and hardly make or dont make enough money to support themselves. for the majority of people, they are giving up the stuff they worked hard for.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/10 "2003-09-04T19:17:51Z")

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Commies aren’t lazy if they’re commies. You will NOT survive in China if you’re lazy, there is no social security, or any other crap that’ll help you. If you’re lazy, you’re on the streets to be slapped at.

Balance in the society is good in a sense. No one is too rich in the end, and then no one is really that poor either.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/11 "2003-09-04T19:20:08Z")

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what do you mean?  
in my understanding, doctors make the same amount as french friers, what is the incentive to be a doctor and work A LOT harder for the same amount of money?  
plus doesn’t everything belong to the community, thus communal food? and housing?

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/12 "2003-09-04T19:21:33Z")

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Yes, communal mostly, but you get used to it and it has its benefits. In China, doctors do make the same amount of money as french friers, but they would not be living in the same neighborhood.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/13 "2003-09-04T19:23:51Z")

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Lazy and / or powerGreedy both screw the idea all up … rendering the whole thing an unachievable fantasy

but the theory basically states that all work equally and all share equally so therefore no-one gets more or less than anyone

It doesn’t necessarily assume the transition from one system or another, but outlines the end result wherein all share equally

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/14 "2003-09-04T19:24:17Z")

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why not? isn’t that what communism is? how could they afford to be in a better neighborhood? oh… wait… the government picks where they live?

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/15 "2003-09-04T19:25:49Z")

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Communism? Or SOCIALISM? Cause if you’re looking for things about Russia, you won’t find anything on COMMUNISM … cause Russia (USSR) was socialist.

Communism is basically no government authority at all. People each do their own thing for the good of the group. If a guy doesn’t work the plumbing, there’s no water. In turn, someone else will do their job in order to help out the plumber.

You should try looking at BOOKS! OH dear Lord, I said it! YES! Books are really good for stuff like this! The Internet is not as great for research as some think it is…

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/16 "2003-09-04T19:28:50Z")

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no, not socialism, communism, i’m not researching russia, just communism in general  
books!!??!! ☹

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/17 "2003-09-04T19:30:47Z")

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Yeah, man! Books … the library! They have them there!! It’s good stuff

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/18 "2003-09-04T19:33:07Z")

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im in the library, but i try to stay away from the “book” section…

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/19 "2003-09-04T19:40:03Z")

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well I just Googled _communism_ and there is plenty there that is not “anti”

ie: [http://www.marxists.org](http://www.marxists.org)

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/good-parts-of-communism/30175/20 "2003-09-04T19:59:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Maxtr0sity \*  
> \*\*Yes, communal mostly, but you get used to it and it has its benefits. In China, doctors do make the same amount of money as french friers, but they would not be living in the same neighborhood. \*\*

there may _some_ perks to being a doctor over a fryer and therefore exists an incentive to try to be one and not the other  
…but when the ruling class gets to decide who can and who can’t be admitted (and not nec. on academic measure alone) into the ‘better’ fields you get doctors that are politically connected rather than specifically more qualified.

Also: there is no incentive to be a better doctor or fryer than anynoe else in your group

…why work harder than anyone else if there is no reward for it ???

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