# Hay-elp **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [July 23, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437 "2003-07-23T02:59:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/1 "2003-07-23T02:59:13Z")
Hey everyone, I need some serious help. I really want to have a logo for my site and all right, well it’s harder than it sounds to make one. 😛 See I wanted to do something with an x at first but I realized everything uses an x and that’s way too common. So then I went to go use the pen tool… ouch… that was a mistake… no matter what program I tried it in I couldn’t make anything good looking at all. So if anyone knows a really good pen tutorial or has any advice at all that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/2 "2003-07-23T03:00:21Z")
pen tool = practice… lots of practice… Rev ![](http://www.aulman.com/rev.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/3 "2003-07-23T03:02:33Z")
I’m thinking it’s gonna take me years and years of practice… but that’s the only way I get good at anything… so I guess I should just keep trying Thanks 😕 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/4 "2003-07-23T03:05:00Z")
Pretty much any prog. pen tools take some time to get use to. What prog? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/5 "2003-07-23T03:08:28Z")
I tried with photoshop but that was horrendous… i also tried in freehand and did a little bit better ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/6 "2003-07-23T03:43:29Z")
I can help with Illustrator or Corel ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/7 "2003-07-23T03:45:32Z")
XXVIII i will try to pullup the tut, but eberth found a tut on logos for the pen tool. i will try to find it. edit: [http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174](http://www.kirupaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27174) first page, sintax posted two links ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/8 "2003-07-23T03:52:34Z")
thx, thanks but unfortunately i have neither… dippy, thanks ill check it out ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/9 "2003-07-23T04:16:51Z")
use the logo on your footer, it’s sweet. :love: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/10 "2003-07-23T04:29:53Z")
Really, ya think so? I really like it too, but I think x’s are way overused… hmmm ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/11 "2003-07-23T18:33:54Z")
x’s are overused? i don’t really think so, i can’t think of an x logo off the top of my head… what _are_ overused are swirl logos. besides, i think it’s a great logo and it’d be an excellent representation of your site. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/12 "2003-07-23T18:49:22Z")
well theres xbox and umm x-men? yeah ok i guess there arent all that many. Thanks for the advice and kind words, I guess I’ll use it then:) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/13 "2003-07-23T18:50:46Z")
28 have you been seeing to many “xxx” lol! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/14 "2003-07-23T18:54:44Z")
that’s what it was… silly me ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/15 "2003-07-23T18:55:19Z")
Hehe 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/16 "2003-07-23T19:31:36Z")
The pen tool is easy once you get used to it. Its not always the best way though, I only use it for very precise work. The best way to learn is to import a simple one colour image into ur vector application, lock it on a lower layer and try to accurately trace around the edges of that image. Just remember not to make your lines or curves too big and split them up with points and u will be fine. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/17 "2003-07-23T19:39:04Z")
well i can pretty much trace one sided figures… but I have big problems with corners… that’s where the pen goes all oogly boogly (cool word right there) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/18 "2003-07-23T19:44:02Z")
> \*Originally posted by xxviii \* > \*\*oogly boogly (cool word right there) \*\* > :love: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/19 "2003-07-23T20:00:16Z")
I :love: soul ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437/20 "2003-07-23T20:04:16Z")
copy cat with the counting thing. btw i got 100 post w/somone else! [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hay-elp/26437.md?page=2)