# Help me make this more realistic **URL:** \ **Category:** design\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716 "2002-11-27T02:40:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yorkshirepuddin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/aeb1de/32.png) [@yorkshirepuddin](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/yorkshirepuddin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/1 "2002-11-27T02:40:05Z")
I’m trying to create a ‘flying butterfly’ and am not quite nailing the motion and realistic-ness (mmm … is that even a word). Take a look. I’d appreciate any advice on tweening, or whatever, to make this better. Ignore colours etc, they just standard for now until I get the motion down. Cheers. YP P.S. I’m trying to upload the .swf and can’t, so go here and take a peep instead - [http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html](http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/2 "2002-11-27T02:56:39Z")
Well you have the wings moving in the same direction both ways, so that isn’t really like flapping, you should have the smaller wing tween to the left when the bigger wing in the front is tweening to the right, so they both go out at the same time, then they both go in at the same time instead of side to side at the same time. I hope this helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/3 "2002-11-27T03:05:45Z")
Better? [http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html](http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:09am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/4 "2002-11-27T03:09:47Z")
Much better 🙂 Just another suggestion: You might want to make the smaller wing slant more downwards, not sure how it would look, and it is just a suggestion, you don’t have to do it of course (but of your you wouldn’t have to do anything I said anyway…lol). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:13am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/5 "2002-11-27T03:13:00Z")
Hey, I’ll take any advice! 🙂 Try again, I think it looks a little choppy now. I need to smooth it out, make it more seamless. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/6 "2002-11-27T03:15:59Z")
Now the smaller wing is moving faster than the bigger wing. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/7 "2002-11-27T03:20:06Z")
> \*Originally posted by lostinbeta \* > \*\*Now the smaller wing is moving faster than the bigger wing. \*\* Picky, picky, picky!! 😛 Just kidding, you’re right. I never noticed that. My own fault, doing two things at once as usual and not concentrating enough on one. Typical me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/8 "2002-11-27T03:21:55Z")
hmm. maybe for the bigger wing, as it flaps down, skew the height of it so that it is shorter, and distort (or whatever the term is; i have to freshen up my flash lingo) the upper part of the wing so that it is larger than the bottom part, giving a sense of perspective of the top of the wing being closer as it goes down. perhaps not skew it so that it is longer horizontally when the wing is down, as that seems to make it appear like it is going left and right rather than up and down. i don’t know if my comments are comprehensible, or even if they’d work. :pirate: it looks great so far, though! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/9 "2002-11-27T03:22:08Z")
Actually I am VERY picky :-\ You were probably better off if I didn’t answer this thread…lol. I will try not to make you hate me though 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/10 "2002-11-27T03:24:34Z")
Okay guys, you both got great points so I’m gonna start from fresh. I’ll get back to you soon! :evil: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/11 "2002-11-27T08:00:58Z")
When you’re done with the wing motion, write back… I have an excellent idea for the actual flight movement… if you’re interested. I did a semi random flight pattern with a/s a little while ago… works pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/12 "2002-11-27T15:54:14Z")
> \*Originally posted by david \* > \*\*When you’re done with the wing motion, write back… I have an excellent idea for the actual flight movement… if you’re interested. I did a semi random flight pattern with a/s a little while ago… works pretty well. \*\* That would be great David. I abandoned the project last night in favour of a warm bed and book, but I’ll be working on it later today. I’ll get back to you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/13 "2002-11-27T17:15:15Z")
Hey guys, I just quickly reworked my butterfly … take a peek at [http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html](http://members.rogers.com/adelelee/butterfly.html) … what to you think? Need anymore tweeking (Lost??? 😛 ) … no really … feel free to critique … makes me a better designer. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/14 "2002-11-27T17:31:44Z")
Haha 😛 This is good 🙂 Yet, there are 2 ways of seeing this, one where it’s all ok, and one where both wings seem to flap inwards 😛 See it? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/15 "2002-11-27T17:39:56Z")
maybe a little faster? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/16 "2002-11-27T17:44:38Z")
Okay, I made it a little faster, you can see it at the same URL. Eilsoe, I tried playing with the skew and stuff but I just can’t get it to look like it’s going to the right. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/17 "2002-11-27T17:53:38Z")
It could be better, but I like it already! 🙂 [SIZE=1]PS: I Know that this isn´t the place, but… …sonmi, I really, really, really love your site! simple and clean, yet original and functional. Great job!!![/SIZE] =) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/18 "2002-11-27T17:55:18Z")
Guigo, what do you mean, every step? Wouldn’t it be just as hard to get the right perspective? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/19 "2002-11-27T18:00:00Z")
…if I´m wrong, plz ignore this post and the previous one. If I´m right, what I mean is that tweens not always behave like we want, so if you draw every step of the movement of the wings, you get more control. If you are having a hard time to do that, maybe I can help you. If you want post the .fla and I´ll see what I can do.🙂 =) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716/20 "2002-11-27T18:21:30Z")
Yeah, I’m doing tween. Here’s the .fla. I won’t take your work, but I can work from your example and go from there! ;0) [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help-me-make-this-more-realistic/8716.md?page=2)