# Help!

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help/26013>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [July 18, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help/26013 "2003-07-18T15:14:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![redViper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3d9bf3/32.png) [@redViper](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/redViper)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help/26013/1 "2003-07-18T15:14:22Z")

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Ok, I’m obsessed with the graphic logos made at [www.thelogofactory.com](http://www.thelogofactory.com) (found them in the phone book here) and I was wondering if you guys could tell what program they use? It kind of looks like Illustrator to me? Cause I wanna download it and give it a try.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help/26013/2 "2003-07-18T15:28:45Z")

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most of them seem to be vector so my guess is fireworks or illustrator maybe freehand. The 3d ones are plasma. That spinning bolt thing is a tutorial from the plasma help files. So I am guessing that is what they are using. Or it could be swift

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/help/26013/3 "2003-07-18T15:32:57Z")

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firewwwoorks  
thats what i was looking for . thank you 😃