# Hey smart people that know about servers and SSH

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**Created:** [May 28, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530 "2008-05-28T15:34:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/1 "2008-05-28T15:34:30Z")

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So I’m working on a new server where I’ll only be doing Django development on, so I’m way in the dark on how to get this stuff set up as I’m used to super simple apache/php stuff.

Anyway I need to create a user to ssh in and do stuff I suppose. I have two questions about that. I can create the user in any of the following:  
/bin/bash/  
/bin/sh/  
/bin/ksh/  
/bin/csh/  
/bin/tcsh/

I have no idea what any of that means. I realize I’m in over my head but I have to stat somewhere :shrug:

Also can I ssh with windows command prompt?

I didn’t really think this fit anywhere, but if someone wants me to move it I’ll be happy to.

Thanks folks.

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/2 "2008-05-28T15:56:14Z")

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Those things listed are shells in Linux - just different flavours of command line languages. You can use your normal unix login to login through SSH. Get PuTTy, it’s a Windows SSH program. Login with your server’s hostname/ip address, then it’ll ask you to accept some signature, enter your user/pass, and ta-da SSH.

Now finish that site so I can see it.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/3 "2008-05-28T15:58:06Z")

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Which cl language would be my best bet? I don’t know any of them so I might as well start with the best one.

Thanks for the response :beam:

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**Author:** ![Ordinathorreur](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/ordinathorreur/32/536_2.png) [@Ordinathorreur](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Ordinathorreur)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/4 "2008-05-28T16:50:22Z")

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bash is probably the most common I reckon… it’s the default on OSX

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**Author:** ![sekasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@sekasi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sekasi)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/5 "2008-05-28T16:53:30Z")

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I’d advice you to use bash too. Just open terminal if you’re on OSX.

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**Author:** ![Esherido](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/esherido/32/2158_2.png) [@Esherido](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Esherido)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/6 "2008-05-28T16:57:23Z")

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I’ll third bash, it’s the default on Linux and OSX (As far as I know.) and is really easy to get the hang of. Remember, _ls_ is your greatest friend.

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**Author:** ![ditt0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@ditt0](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/ditt0)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/7 "2008-05-28T17:07:44Z")

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It depends on what you need the script to do.  
You can take a look here [http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/shell-differences](http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/shell-differences/) under Shell features. Some people write their own shell scripts to get all the usability they need.

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**Author:** ![kdd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@kdd](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kdd)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/8 "2008-05-28T17:38:49Z")

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I hear you nobody. Like others suggested, you can use putty, or I use SSH Secure Shell. Here’s the link to download it: [http://www.wm.edu/it/index.php?id=2928](http://www.wm.edu/it/index.php?id=2928) and it’ll look something like this: [http://www.bristol.ac.uk/is/learning/documentation/ssh-i1/ssh-i1-1.gif](http://www.bristol.ac.uk/is/learning/documentation/ssh-i1/ssh-i1-1.gif)

I love it, it’s very easy, and ftp is just awesomely easy!  
Hope this helps! 🙂

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/9 "2008-05-28T17:42:38Z")

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Thanks all, going to use bash and putty. I really wish I had a mac for work, boo.

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**Author:** ![ramie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ramie](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/ramie)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/10 "2008-05-28T18:16:44Z")

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Super useful bash command list page \> [http://www.ss64.com/bash/](http://www.ss64.com/bash/)

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/11 "2008-05-28T19:26:20Z")

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[QUOTE=ramie;2332501]Super useful bash command list page \> [http://www.ss64.com/bash/[/QUOTE]](http://www.ss64.com/bash/%5B/QUOTE%5D)  
I friggin love that site. It’s so clean, so concise. That dude’s done amazing work.

I 20th Bash? Bash is pretty awesome and it’s the default on most Unix variants nowadays.

And PuTTy is bloody marvelous as well. It is the best terminal applications I have ever used. In fact, when I have a Linux virtual machine running in Windows, I use PuTTy to SSH into that machine to use command line instead of using the crapass console in Linux.

This thread is just getting me hot.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/12 "2008-05-28T19:45:51Z")

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```auto
[thisandco@web40 bin]$ ls
compile-messages.py django-admin.py make-messages.py unique-messages.py
daily_cleanup.py __init__.py profiling
[thisandco@web40 bin]$ django-admin.py startproject thisandco
-bash: django-admin.py: command not found

```

☹ whatidoinwrong?

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/13 "2008-05-28T20:21:48Z")

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nevermind, got it.

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**Author:** ![Loyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e274bd/32.png) [@Loyx](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Loyx)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/14 "2008-05-29T19:01:11Z")

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> [@ramie;2332501](#):
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> Super useful bash command list page \> [An A-Z Index of the Linux command line - SS64.com](http://www.ss64.com/bash/)

Where is ‘iwconfig’, ‘clear’, ‘poweroff’, ‘reboot’, ‘modprobe’, ‘mkfs’, etc…? Really useful commands…

That list is incomplete, I prefer this one:

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Plus the wireless commands:

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/15 "2008-05-29T19:31:29Z")

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Those aren’t really bash commands. They are system-specific and they are in the man page.

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**Author:** ![ramie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@ramie](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/ramie)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/16 "2008-05-29T19:50:39Z")

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[quote=Loyx;2333186]Where is ‘iwconfig’, ‘clear’, ‘poweroff’, ‘reboot’, ‘modprobe’, ‘mkfs’, etc…? Really useful commands…

That list is incomplete, I prefer this one:  
[http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/](http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/)

Plus the wireless commands:  
[http://wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm](http://wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm)

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lol, thats me told, I guess iwconfig and clear are more useful that find, ls, cat or tail :bounce:

[COLOR=Gray](note: thread about bash ala bash command list)[/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/17 "2008-05-29T20:57:12Z")

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Alex, I’ll try “things over my head” for $200.

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**Author:** ![blazes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@blazes](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/blazes)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/18 "2008-05-29T21:16:49Z")

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Try:

./django-admin.py startproject thisandco

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/19 "2008-05-29T21:19:49Z")

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Got it yesterday, but that’s what I did. Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![blazes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@blazes](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/blazes)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/hey-smart-people-that-know-about-servers-and-ssh/261530/20 "2008-05-29T21:54:04Z")

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No problem Ms Jenkins.

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