# HTML Frames or No?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-frames-or-no/258214>\
**Category:** web dev\
**Created:** [April 22, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-frames-or-no/258214 "2008-04-22T04:34:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![u\_stu\_com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c57346/32.png) [@u\_stu\_com](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/u_stu_com)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-frames-or-no/258214/1 "2008-04-22T04:34:00Z")

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My website has a long banner-like logo across the top of every page and a menu underneath. The logo is a .swf and I only want it to load once but appear on every page. Should I use frames, iframes, or something else to achieve this? I don’t want an additional scrollbar other than the one on the right like every site has I just want it to seamlessly continue from the logo and menu to the content underneath. If it makes any difference, I prefer tables to CSS because it’s easier for me to manage the type of site I have.