# HTML Question
**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056
**Category:** talk
**Created:** [December 23, 2002, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056 "2002-12-23T16:13:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@sintax321](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sintax321)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/1 "2002-12-23T16:13:27Z")
I’m haveing some trouble with a new layout i’m making for my govt site.
[http://www.testmach.govmail.gov.sk.ca/mrd/mrdnewhome.shtml](http://www.testmach.govmail.gov.sk.ca/mrd/mrdnewhome.shtml)
As you can see the content in the the 3 colum table at the bottom won’t go to the top. It always seems to want to go in the middle. I can’t for the life of me figure out why this is happening. Any help would be great.
PS: I thought there was a HTMl forum but either it was removed or i’m crazy and it never exsisted. IF there is a better place for this please move it.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/2 "2002-12-23T16:28:37Z")
There, moved 🙂
it’s called serverside/scripting now 😛
Anyways, dunno why it’s happening… but I love that graphic at the top 😛
Really fits in nicely 🙂
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/3 "2002-12-23T16:34:49Z")
Thanxs. I wish i made it. When working for the govt there are Visual Identaty Stardards that have to be followed. One standard is that graphic. Some one at VIO made it and i have to use it. There is alot of stuff like that that i have no control over. Thats why building this site sucks so bad. I have no creative freedom.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/4 "2002-12-23T16:54:07Z")
On your table cells do you have the tag set to vertical align at the top?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/5 "2002-12-23T17:00:04Z")
Thank you Beta. Why did it need to have that to go to the top? Shouldn’t default take care of that?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/6 "2002-12-23T17:03:30Z")
No, actually for some incredibly stupid reason that I don’t know of, the W3C set the default vertical alignment of table cells to “middle”
There is “top”, “middle”, and “bottom” , and they chose middle, which is stupid because how many people actually have all their content in the middle of their cell?!?!?!
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/7 "2002-12-23T17:31:35Z")
That is very stupid. I never thought to try the align becasue I thought for sure it was a default top. I would have never had tried it so thanks
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/html-question/10056/8 "2002-12-23T17:45:56Z")
No problem 🙂
Yeah, I spent hours trying to figure it when I made my first website, it almost made me give up HTML…lol.
But I didn’t even know about VALIGN then, now I know so much more about it to be able to fix stuff, I am glad I learned it.
\<~~~ this is me babbling…lol.
Good luck on the rest of the site 🙂