# Illustrator Help

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/illustrator-help/92000>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [October 11, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/illustrator-help/92000 "2003-10-11T18:30:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![DDD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DDD](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/DDD)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/illustrator-help/92000/1 "2003-10-11T18:30:38Z")

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I forget who it was but someone on here claimed to be a illustrator guru. Well I need ya. I need to know if there is a easy way to create those swirly like french designs. The kind you find on fancy french furniture or a wrought iron gate. I really do not know what it is called exactly. Hopefully someone know what I am talking about.

I know I can do it with the pen tool but It will be incredibly tedious, was wondering if there is a short cut in Ill (actually or FW or FH)
