# iPod design more retro than we thought?

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**Created:** [October 14, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ipod-design-more-retro-than-we-thought/165800 "2005-10-14T01:20:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ya3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@ya3](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/ya3)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ipod-design-more-retro-than-we-thought/165800/1 "2005-10-14T01:20:41Z")

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[SIZE=1]Taken from: [http://www.maccast.com/index.php?s=lisa+mouse](http://www.maccast.com/index.php?s=lisa+mouse)[/SIZE]  
Would of been cool if the Lisa was the first Apple computer to play music (given that the mascot is holding an iPod), so I thought I’d take a look at the 22 year old Apple Lisa User Manual (downloadable as a PDF) to find out! Didn’t find a mention of music (though could of missed it) but something that nearly made me fall off my seat, before I realised what it was, is the following pic, taken from page 226 of the manual…  
 ![](http://forum.kirupa.com/uploads/kirupa/1861/0831d957b0c6739b.jpg) ![](http://forum.kirupa.com/uploads/kirupa/1862/d489ddcade5f4caf.jpg)  
The first pic is the **bottom of the Apple Lisa mouse!**