# Is layering without z-index possible?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-layering-without-z-index-possible/221180>\
**Category:** web dev\
**Created:** [April 2, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-layering-without-z-index-possible/221180 "2007-04-02T09:45:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![rohan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@rohan](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-layering-without-z-index-possible/221180/1 "2007-04-02T09:45:25Z")

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Hi,

I’ve got to create an email signature for an annoying client that wants to overly complicate the job for me :fight: (don’t you hate that). They need a curved border around an email signature which has 9 (yes thats right 9) logos in it. Now I went along and set up my nice little CSS signature and realised that there is a boatload of exceptions and rules you have to follow to get things looking right across local and internet based web clients (yay as usual). I’ve hit a wall with gmail as it doesn’t recognise the z-index property, so how am I supposed to create a layered look with the border graphic in the background and all the other stuff on top? Is there anyway to layer divs without using the z-index property? Any help would be much appreciated!