# Is Terrorism Justified in Muslim Law?

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**Created:** [July 23, 2004, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555 "2004-07-23T14:20:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/121 "2004-09-28T21:11:20Z")

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> [@Sluger](#):
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> **9/11**
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> Many believe that Muslims werent behind the 9/11 attacks, not even Bin Laden.
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> **Spain attack**
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> Again, some believe that it was not the work of Muslims.
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> **Beslan school siege**
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> Done by “fake-Muslims”.
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> We do have corrupt clerics who support the killing of innocent people, they are **corrupt**.
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> There is nothing wrong with Islam. Its just perfect.

I cannot argue with conspiracy theories and will stop now. I have tried to talk sense with people in the past that went the conspiracy route and it is a waist of breath for me. It is like trying to negotiate with terrorist…

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/122 "2004-09-28T22:00:11Z")

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Hey people are entitled to their own beliefs, you cannot claim to be right and them to be wrong.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/123 "2004-09-28T22:33:42Z")

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> [@Sluger](#):
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> There is nothing wrong with Islam. Its just perfect.

No religion is perfect. If it were, everybody would be following it. Also, if Islam was perfect, I strongly doubt there would be a need for a thread that asks whether “Terorrism is Justified in Muslim Law?” nor would so many random terrorist acts around the world somehow involve islamists (fake or not) claiming to do God’s will :sleep:

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/124 "2004-09-28T22:34:42Z")

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a friend who has never been in a relationship is giving me advice on how i can fix up my relationship. how ironic!

a friend who has been broke his whole life is giving me advice on how i can invest my money in some buisness. how ironic!

…the list goes on

just apply the above to this topic, and u’ll get a clear picture.

you can’t tell me something unless you’ve actually been there or been at least close to whatever your talking about!

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/125 "2004-09-28T23:27:15Z")

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That sounds good and fine, but lets take out terrorist and put in serial killer. They usually had a bad childhood which led them down that path. Is it their fault they killed people, or their parents, or the government for not stoping both? Again, personal responsabiltiy (wow that fits everywhere in life huh). I think the blame stops with the murder in all cases.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/126 "2004-09-28T23:55:40Z")

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> That sounds good and fine, but lets take out terrorist and put in serial killer. They usually had a bad childhood which led them down that path. Is it their fault they killed people, or their parents, or the government for not stoping both? Again, personal responsabiltiy (wow that fits everywhere in life huh). I think the blame stops with the murder in all cases.

terrorist and put in serial killer… Come on…

If you wanted to fight against the US what are you going to do ?  
Are you going to go buy a gun, walk down the street and take on 100,000 troops, 1000’s of tanks, 1000’s of jets…

pft… you can’t use conventional warfare… what else you gonna do ?

You can’t call them serial killers for fighting the only way they can…

Also… they in know way meet the definition or serial killer in the dictionary, but then who cares about what definitions are.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/127 "2004-09-29T00:26:52Z")

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I’m not taking sides or anything, but my global studies teacher said that how can america call them terrorists when we’re the ones blowing up kids, people and their houses too?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/128 "2004-09-29T00:28:47Z")

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Unorganized people have taken on and beaten large organized militaries throughout history. The unorganized colonies in America beat off the largest, strongest, best trained, highest tech military in the world at the time. Not just once but twice. They didn’t go to Britian and blow up women and children to stop the military. They used geurilla warfare to do it. Thank God they did to or else I would be here speeking English to you all today…oh wait…

My point with serial killers is that we don’t blame what happend to make them have no regaurd for human life, we realize you cannot negotiate with them and either kill them or lock them up for life to save society from them. I think it was a wonderful analogy…

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/129 "2004-09-29T00:34:09Z")

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> [@The Reefster](#):
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> I’m not taking sides or anything, but my global studies teacher said that how can america call them terrorists when we’re the ones blowing up kids, people and their houses too?

The difference is that America does not target innocent people. The US military is fighting a war to kill militants. With that, sometime innocent people are killed during it.

Ask your teacher who he/she would rather have trying to kill an enemy next door to him/her? The terrorist that will put a car bomb in front of the house and take out much of the block? Or the US that will stick a precison guided missle in the window of the house next door taking out only that house?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/130 "2004-09-29T02:16:06Z")

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> [@kirupa](#):
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> No religion is perfect. If it were, everybody would be following it. Also, if Islam was perfect, I strongly doubt there would be a need for a thread that asks whether “Terorrism is Justified in Muslim Law?” nor would so many random terrorist acts around the world somehow involve islamists (fake or not) claiming to do God’s will :sleep:

You see, Islam is perfect, but humans aren’t. We have humans who are not very bright and see things the wrong way.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/131 "2004-09-29T02:18:33Z")

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> [@blindlizard](#):
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> The difference is that America does not target innocent people. The US military is fighting a war to kill militants. With that, sometime innocent people are killed during it.
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> Ask your teacher who he/she would rather have trying to kill an enemy next door to him/her? The terrorist that will put a car bomb in front of the house and take out much of the block? Or the US that will stick a precison guided missle in the window of the house next door taking out only that house?

Too bad there have been many cases of the U.S targeting civilians :upset:

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/132 "2004-09-29T02:20:31Z")

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> [@kirupa](#):
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> No religion is perfect. If it were, everybody would be following it. Also, if Islam was perfect, I strongly doubt there would be a need for a thread that asks whether “Terorrism is Justified in Muslim Law?” nor would so many random terrorist acts around the world somehow involve islamists (fake or not) claiming to do God’s will

You see, Islam is perfect, but humans aren’t. We have humans who are not very bright and see things the wrong way.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/133 "2004-09-29T02:29:30Z")

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> Too bad there have been many cases of the U.S targeting civilians

name seven.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:00am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/134 "2004-09-29T11:00:17Z")

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> You see, Islam is perfect, but humans aren’t. We have humans who are not very bright and see things the wrong way.

your taking it all wrong. i am a muslim myself and i think my religion is perfect. but you gotta know that its was our environment around us that forced us to adapt it. if you look from a different perspective, you can be a christian and tell that the religion is perferct. or you can look at buddhism and tell that its perfect. who you believe and what you believe is only your opinion. others might not think that way

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/135 "2004-09-29T11:42:46Z")

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> [@natronp](#):
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> name seven.

not possible. They aren’t civilian targets, at worse, they’re merely collateral damage. The US IraqiComCenter is not crazy enough to say they actually targeted _civilians_. They targeted _fighters_, but there was **collateral damage** … This is so useful! Darn, we screwed up!! Collateral Damage!!

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/136 "2004-09-29T14:10:06Z")

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> [@Pomme\_](#):
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> not possible. They aren’t civilian targets, at worse, they’re merely collateral damage. The US IraqiComCenter is not crazy enough to say they actually targeted _civilians_. They targeted _fighters_, but there was **collateral damage** … This is so useful! Darn, we screwed up!! Collateral Damage!!

What possible purpose would the US have for targeting civillians?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/137 "2004-09-29T14:22:03Z")

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> What possible purpose would the US have for targeting civillians?

None… But they are not as careful as they could be.

Target in a civillian area… Drop a bomb on it and hope the collateral damage isn’t to bad.

Alternative.  
Send in ground troops, at the cost of US lives…

It’s just easier and quicker for the US to kill civillians…

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If that were the case, we would just carpet bomb places like Falujah and Najaf. Instead we risk soldiers lives to get just the militants.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/139 "2004-09-29T14:33:39Z")

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Well even the US wouldn’t get away with carpet bombing a civillian area…

And I am sure when a US team finds a militants nest they call in for a air strike when ever they can.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/is-terrorism-justified-in-muslim-law/58555/140 "2004-09-29T14:46:32Z")

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Wouldn’t get away with? How is that?  
Sure they call for an air strike, but you bet that every attempt is made to not hurt civillians. You see that is is the difference that people like you are missing. The US does what it can to ensure that civillians are hurt (even though we all know they sometimes are) and terrorists target directly the civillians. Is that not clear?

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