# Kirupa/upuaut **URL:** \ **Category:** talk\ **Created:** [June 14, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175 "2003-06-14T00:15:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![turkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@turkey](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/turkey)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/1 "2003-06-14T00:15:08Z")
I would love to have a structured debate! Maybe we could have, for example, 8 participants in a single elimination debate tournament. There could also be a judging panel. That panel would come up with random topics for each round šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/2 "2003-06-14T02:45:31Z")
eh, though i like the idea, debates may turn ugly in the end. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/3 "2003-06-14T03:21:13Z")
> eh, though i like the idea, debates may turn ugly in the end. They will only turn ugly if we debate about things we REALLY care about. I was thinking more like random, sometimes silly debates that are supported by real evidence. Two example topics: Which is better: Chicken or Turkey Better cars: German or Italian ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/4 "2003-06-14T03:48:40Z")
naw, thatā€™s not the purpose of the Ordered forum. quarrel like that in random. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/5 "2003-06-14T03:51:31Z")
> \*Originally posted by sushis \* > \*\*They will only turn ugly if we debate about things we REALLY care about. I was thinking more like random, sometimes silly debates that are supported by real evidence. Two example topics: > Which is better: Chicken or Turkey > Better cars: German or Italian \*\* Umm, those questions are based on opinions and cannot be supported by evidence šŸ˜‰ Plus what Thor said. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/6 "2003-06-14T08:06:02Z")
the answer is clearly chicken šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/7 "2003-06-14T11:19:37Z")
Neither šŸ˜› Meat sucks - Soul :s: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/8 "2003-06-14T11:21:39Z")
> \*Originally posted by Soul \* > **Neither šŸ˜› _sucks meat_** > šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/9 "2003-06-14T11:25:42Z")
Hey!!! šŸ˜± lol šŸ˜› - Soul :s: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/10 "2003-06-14T11:26:44Z")
mwuaahaha! ph34r my l33t editing skillz0r! :beam: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/11 "2003-06-14T20:33:05Z")
of course debates will turn ugly. thatā€™s why theyā€™re debates. jeez. people are so afraid of disagreeing here, itā€™s sickening sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/12 "2003-06-14T20:37:25Z")
chicken! CHICKEN! :bad: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/13 "2003-06-15T00:30:48Z")
Most of the debates here are quite good, and they only have the usual 3 or 4 participants =) Iā€™ve never done a structured debate, and it depends a lot on the topic - upuaut, if he is interested, may be willing to judge. Many debate-able(?) topics can be found in Ordered - do a search and you may find something that interests you, and you can resuscitate that thread back to life by replying to it. For the usual, non-controversial topics, use Random. Ordered is primarily for those touchy issues that involve some thought or reason. Topics in Ordered stay alive and visible without being boggled in Randomā€™sā€¦Randomness :thumb: Cheers! Kirupa :ub: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/14 "2003-06-15T01:28:18Z")
ā€¦iā€™m moving this thread to random, itā€™s getting ugly. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/15 "2003-06-15T01:46:23Z")
Yep - good move there thor; mails Thor a ā€œKirupian Galactic Medal of Honor.ā€ It has the one eyed alien from Commander Keen on one sideā€¦and a collectorā€™s stamp of approval on the other. On the ugly debate, I am going to agree with Jonathan Swift (haha, look how he spelled Joā€™hā€™nathan): > "I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ā€¦ā€ You can read the full thing here: [Jonathan Swift - A Modest Proposal](http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) EDIT: I am just kidding; I do not condone the eating of peopleā€¦or Asian childrenā€¦which are also people, but smaller and bite-size šŸ™‚ Cheers! Kirupa :beam: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/16 "2003-06-16T02:41:36Z")
Why does everyone think that a debate has to get ugly. Thatā€™s called an arguement in my book. A debate is a structured conversation graded on persuasiveness of arguements and proofs. You start name calling in something like that and you lose. It doesnā€™t matter if youā€™re arguing that the earth revolves around the sun. Of courseā€¦ thatā€™s me as a judge. Iā€™d love to have a panel of three of us as judges. I assume that we would pick a number of topics, as judges, and then ask the two participants to argue one side or the other. Though I guess if the participants want to come up with their own topics thatā€™s ok too. Itā€™s all do-able. The only problem with that is, this is where arguements develope. In a typical school debate, it helps to be passionate about a subject sometimes, other times it can be a hinderance. It is when we choose what we wish to debate, that we often choose our most passionate subjects. This inevitably leads to a rise in blood preasure. I will however, leave that choice up to the combatants. Iā€™m game for judging such a competition, but keep in mind. Most of you know my reputation. Iā€™m no easy judge of anything ā€œtrueā€. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/17 "2003-06-16T02:48:16Z")
upuaut, insomniac is a great show(looking at your footer) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/kirupa-upuaut/23175/18 "2003-06-16T03:40:49Z")
:)ā€¦ I never miss an episode.