# Learn java/C++?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/learn-java-c/199246>\
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**Created:** [August 31, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/learn-java-c/199246 "2006-08-31T22:21:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![indiasfinest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5e9695/32.png) [@indiasfinest](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/indiasfinest)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/learn-java-c/199246/1 "2006-08-31T22:21:52Z")

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if i wanna learn Java or C++…where could i get started? any sites? i prfer not to use books cuz i hate them lol…wat programs (if not notepad)  
thanks guys