# Linkage and preloaders!

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600>\
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**Created:** [February 15, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600 "2003-02-15T06:46:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dave](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/1 "2003-02-15T06:46:38Z")

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ok i had this preloader and in my file i had components of the scroll bar.

the preloader didnt kick in untill 21kbs were loaded, so the problem was that the components had been linked to load on the first frame or whatever!!

so i removed the linkage, now the preloader shows from the very beginning **but** this time the scrolling bars and components won’t load when the dynamic text loads. For some reason the scrolling component dissapears.

how come :q:

ill give 2 flas for u to look at, with and without linkage!!

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/2 "2003-02-15T06:47:25Z")

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and the other one =)

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/3 "2003-02-15T07:14:54Z")

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i haven’t even downloaded you files but … do not use components !! components always bring you more troubles than they solve …

it’s not difficult to make the scrollers. there’s tut here at kirupa [size=1]i think …[/size] and millions and millions of open source fla’s at flashkit 🙂

just my two cents 😏

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/4 "2003-02-15T07:16:47Z")

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Simple: When exporting an object from the library for actionscript, you MUST also export it to the first frame.

In the case of components, this is a MUST for it to work.

Hence the reason why others and even myself do not like components.

You’re ■■■■■■ if you do, and you’re ■■■■■■ if you don’t.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/5 "2003-02-15T07:22:31Z")

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yep …

they can do everything except for what they are supposed to be … make our life easier :-\

i didn’t even knew that you have to export them in frame 0 !! 😛

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/6 "2003-02-15T07:25:14Z")

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I found it out by accident, that is one thing that definitely sucks about them. Especially because they beef up your file size a few Kb. And all of this has to load BEFORE your preloder…grrr.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/7 "2003-02-15T07:32:44Z")

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yeah … it makes your preloader completely useless :hair:

seriously … macromedia should change that stupid thing because sooner or later components will disappear because of it [size=1]honestly … i really don’t think they would disappear :P[/size]

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:36am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/8 "2003-02-15T07:36:01Z")

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I don’t think they will disappear either. But I hate having to export to frame 0. If they can’t fix that, they should at least have a way to add a preloader before that content, so everything can load.

Especially since the scrollbar component alone as 82 symbols contained inside it. And the listbox and combobox and such use the scrollbar component inside them alone with all the symbols needed to make that component. It is nuts.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/9 "2003-02-15T07:39:46Z")

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> posted by **lostinbeta**

If they can’t fix that, they should at least have a way to add a preloader before that content, so everything can load.

that could be a good solution too … either way the point is:

until that happens … do **NOT use them**!! 😛

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/10 "2003-02-15T07:46:47Z")

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ok, thanks guys, i am guessing it’s not a good idea to use the component. This was my problem too. Ok, Just a quick question. I was gonna do Flash News tutorial instead of text scroller. But it will use component also. Does it mean my preloader won’t work either? or have you guys tried the preloader with the flash news?

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/11 "2003-02-15T07:49:30Z")

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If you are talking about the headlab news flasher, that component is all actionscript based, it does not interfere with your preloader I don’t think.

And I am not saying don’t use the scrollbar component, I know making scrollbars that accurate and like an OS scrollbar is hard to do in Flash, but if you don’t like the delay, there is nothing you can do about it :-\

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/12 "2003-02-15T07:52:15Z")

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> posted by **lostinbeta**

but if you don’t like the delay, there is nothing you can do about it :-\

please tell me someone who actually likes the delay 😛

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/13 "2003-02-15T08:08:41Z")

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Yup, I don’t think I like the DELAY. By the way, I just tried the flash news components…and i don’t like to wait, so I will use it instead of scrollbar. It works with the preloader but not to forget to uncheck the Linkage options

Thanks

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/14 "2003-02-15T09:56:25Z")

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so is there any way then to get around it?

wats this export to frame 0 business?  
if that helps, how do u export it to frame 0?

:q:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/15 "2003-02-15T10:02:05Z")

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Frame 0 is the imaginary frame that causes all this delay trouble.

When you choose to Export for Actionscript, the checkbox for Export to first frame is default checked too, this needs to be checked.

What this does is causes the item to export to the imaginary Frame 0, this frame of course loads before the very real Frame 1 of your movie, so anything in there loads before your movie, including your preloader, causing a delay.

I don’t know a way around it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 10:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/16 "2003-02-15T10:06:16Z")

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arrggghhhhhhhhh 😛

fine fine fine, ill just create my own then!!

:sure:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2003, 10:10am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/17 "2003-02-15T10:10:03Z")

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> posted by **Dave**

fine fine fine, ill just create my own then!!

bravo !! :A+: 😉 😛

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/18 "2003-02-17T15:09:53Z")

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what if you use a scene for the preloader , then use another scene for the content? would the preloader load before the component?

:::never mind , tried it , didnt work :-\

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/linkage-and-preloaders/13600/19 "2003-02-17T20:09:14Z")

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Yeah, because when you export to first frame, it exports to the first frame of your entire movie.
