# Logo design help
**URL:** https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667
**Category:** design
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667 "2004-07-06T17:32:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@fiery\_rockstar](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/fiery_rockstar)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/1 "2004-07-06T17:32:37Z")
If you take a look [here](http://www.vapour-music.co.uk). That “enter the site” logo is really what has been used throughout the site as a logo but lets face it, now that the buttons are grey it all looks a little plain and boring. What would be the best program to use to design logos in?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/2 "2004-07-06T18:36:46Z")
personally… illustrator is what i use for designing logos
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/3 "2004-07-06T18:38:39Z")
Any vector based app. Flash, Fireworks, Freehand, Illustrator…
I prefer AI myself.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/4 "2004-07-06T18:43:32Z")
What ever program you are best in.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/5 "2004-07-06T19:07:31Z")
I realize you are only 14 but put a little more design in the flash. Dont forget that you dont have to use entirely flash for a website, if you’re better at html or something like dreamweaver for design use that and put flash elements into your page.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/logo-design-help/56667/6 "2004-07-06T20:36:26Z")
To guinness… Some of the best web design I’ve ever seen in my life was done by my friend who is 13… never underestimate the younger generation ;)… but I’m not 14 I’m 16 coming 17…but anywho… I can appreciate what your saying but we wanna use entirely Flash for the Vapour website so that we can have one preloader for each whole page… To Ethan… the problem is I’m good with none of them lol. I’m only learning here so… I’m gonna go look for a demo of this Illustrator yee speak of… thanx all 🙂