# member when FTP...

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849>\
**Category:** random\
**Created:** [March 26, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849 "2021-03-26T09:56:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![tbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@tbo](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/tbo)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/1 "2021-03-26T09:56:20Z")

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Remember before any peer to peer software or bit torrents existed, people would just connect to random FTP servers and blindly download “stuff”.

Music, random executables, dumb little indi “apps” with no credits what so ever.

I member

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/2X/9/98a2e4875da20490c24c845e3532353f758968e5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![kirupa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/kirupa/32/11616_2.png) [@kirupa](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kirupa)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/2 "2021-03-26T13:34:36Z")

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I remember it just like it was yesterday. Don’t tell anyone, but I still use FTP/SFTP for file management of the files here…via Dreamweaver 🤠

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/3 "2021-03-26T14:01:54Z")

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> [@tbo](#):
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> blindly download “stuff”

Pretty sure most people are still doing that. 😆

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**Author:** ![tbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@tbo](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/tbo)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/4 "2021-03-26T18:42:47Z")

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> [@kirupa](#):
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> I remember it just like it was yesterday. Don’t tell anyone, but I still use FTP/SFTP for file management of the files here…via Dreamweaver 🤠

I do too, for that purpose i assumed it was still the main way?

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/5 "2021-03-26T23:18:19Z")

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@kirupa, do you also still use Flash / Amimate for Ilustrations?

> [@I just discovered...](http://forum.kirupa.com/t/i-just-discovered/429695):
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> …that Flash CC 2014 exports to SVG. Given that almost all of my illustrations are created in Flash, this is going to be awesome. I’ve already changed the [kirupa.com](http://kirupa.com) logo to show up as an SVG instead of the PNG file that it once was!

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**Author:** ![kirupa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/kirupa/32/11616_2.png) [@kirupa](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kirupa)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/6 "2021-03-27T04:11:50Z")

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Not any more. About a year ago, I switched over to using Sketch exclusively. I do miss Flash/Animate’s line drawing tool that allowed me to draw a squiggly line and then smooth it out 📏

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**Author:** ![steve.mills](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/steve.mills/32/14961_2.png) [@steve.mills](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/steve.mills)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/7 "2021-03-27T12:51:45Z")

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Does sketch output optimized SVG? e.g.

```
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</svg>
```

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/8 "2021-03-30T12:41:19Z")

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> [@kirupa](#):
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> Not any more. About a year ago, I switched over to using Sketch exclusively. I do miss Flash/Animate’s line drawing tool that allowed me to draw a squiggly line and then smooth it out 📏

So was the switch due to still using an older version that could no longer keep up on newer OS’s, or it just being finally time to say goodbye and move on? Overall was it a pretty “smooth” transition aside from that feature ? 😉

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**Author:** ![kirupa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/kirupa/32/11616_2.png) [@kirupa](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kirupa)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/9 "2021-03-30T19:22:21Z")

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The biggest reason was that the exporting capabilities in Animate became buggy. I export all of my graphics as 2x and 3x PNG images, and there were enough bugs where the export would always be 1x despite what the previewer said. That was frustrating, so that pushed me over to Sketch. As I got used to Sketch, it has a lot of nice features that are better optimized for my use-cases around creating vector-based graphics.

Having a single Sketch document with multiple “pages” that I can use for managing all of my visuals as opposed to having a FLA file for each diagram is quite the time saver ⏲

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**Author:** ![tbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@tbo](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/tbo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/10 "2021-03-31T00:22:11Z")

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I vaguely remember having png export bugs as well, but the main problem i faced with png exporting in animate (or the last version with the flash name), they introduced sprite sheet exporting as they appeared to be going along with AIR for mobile.

The sheets it generated used full squares i believe, and far more empty space with each frame. Besides losing a ton of space per sheet, the performance of rendering that extra transparency was absolutely huge on mobile (which at that time devices were very performance restricted). Add to that the loss of space means you may need an extra sheet causing more draw calls.

Simply generating sprite sheets with the little program texture packer by one single guy living out of a dumpster (ok i made that part up) far out performed flashes sprite sheets on ios/android.

Then they just kinda didn’t fix it…

It was a pretty core need in my view. Everyone in the AIR community, and i mean everyone, me, and like 3 other humans on planet earth still using air were outraged. That might have been the last actually flashing i did, but continued using AIR with flash develop IDE for a while after.

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**Author:** ![prg9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@prg9](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/prg9)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/11 "2021-03-31T00:36:49Z")

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> [@tbo](#):
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> Everyone in the AIR community, and i mean everyone, me, and like 3 other humans on planet earth still using air were outraged.

😆

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**Author:** ![MyraBriggs](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/myrabriggs/32/15062_2.png) [@MyraBriggs](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MyraBriggs)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/12 "2021-10-17T10:20:02Z")

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Really agree, there is a big number of people.

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**Author:** ![kirupa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/kirupa/32/11616_2.png) [@kirupa](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kirupa)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/13 "2021-10-18T02:08:44Z")

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It was so normal back in the day to click on a FTP link and have Windows Explorer launch with all of the FTP folders and files for us to drag/drop/download. It was always a “special view” since the context menu contained only 3 or 4 items and none of the special ones that polluted the menu like those of WinZip etc.

😀

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**Author:** ![steve.mills](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/steve.mills/32/14961_2.png) [@steve.mills](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/steve.mills)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/member-when-ftp/646849/14 "2021-10-18T13:07:05Z")

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