# MS Longhorn Prototype gallery **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [May 10, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938 "2004-05-10T23:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![telekinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@telekinesis](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/telekinesis)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/1 "2004-05-10T23:09:16Z")
[http://winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn\_winhec\_proto.asp](http://winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_winhec_proto.asp) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/2 "2004-06-11T17:18:23Z")
me neither… and, my guess is that hansel is a mav lurver… 🙂 …why the hell should someone want to patent a design element like transparent windows? eh… just my 2 cent… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/3 "2004-06-11T17:24:13Z")
> [@DDD](#): > > why do MAC users hate MS so? I never understood that. What’s more annoying is that they can’t keep their grubby little paws out of any positive Windows-related thread without throwing the “I’m still cute! My OS needs more attention.” tantrum 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/4 "2004-06-11T19:20:37Z")
> [@DDD](#): > > why do MAC users hate MS so? I never understood that. I dont hate MS, i am an avid Office user. I just hate Windows and I hate the way that Windows bahsers are always going on and on about how they have the market share, Windows is a better platform, look OSX has 3 holes! Its that kind of stuff that gets me. I dont like Windows because as soon as i started using a Mac, the time i have had to spend on projects has gone down because a Mac is faster in every respect. I mean i still use a Windows computer for gaming and for when i need a 17" monitor to code with, and i dont feel like hooking up the 12" PowerBook. But I would take a Mac over a Windows machine any day. -Mike PS. Whoever asked, yes i am a **Mac lover**. I have no clue what a Mav Luver is though. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/5 "2004-06-11T19:22:32Z")
> [@bodyvisual](#): > > me neither… and, my guess is that hansel is a mav lurver… 🙂 > > …why the hell should someone want to patent a design element like transparent windows? eh… just my 2 cent… Someone would want to patent Transparent Windows because its a usibility feature. When you dont use a window for a while it starts to go transparent, leaving more room for you to work and see whats behind it. Its really going to be useful, take my word on it. I really hope we get to see what they do with it at WWDC. I wanted to go but its like $1500 a ticket, or something around there. -Mike ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/6 "2004-06-17T14:37:23Z")
> [@Hansel](#): > > I dont understand that side pannel that takes up all that space, and then they have the task bar too? You loose at least 25% of your screen space. In addition to that, do you see the inch or so of unused space at the top of the windows that has nothing in it! Whoally crap I hope you can turn that off. I love every inch of screen space I have and use the smallest styleXP skins I possibly can just so I can get more! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/7 "2004-06-17T16:09:36Z")
I wouldn’t doubt it if you couldn’t turn that off, but it’ll probably be only in explorer and window’s application settings type stuff ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/8 "2004-07-20T13:56:48Z")
hehehehehe mdipi I dont want to start a mac vs pc war here but the maket share of apple it was not 1 or 2 % of the market so if the increase sales to 200% is not 4% ? and we don’t need to forget that flag brand of apple was ADOBE and they say that PC are much faster and with AERO the Pc will be ahead on the maket, I hate Microsoft, I like MAC X OS\<— but but I love INTEL/AMD processors they are faster and cheeper. _Lobo_ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/9 "2004-07-21T15:15:05Z")
well windows is copycat company.many people think that there is no os other than windows.(in india especially) they are not aware of mac.they know linux but they dont wanna tryu it cause it is difficult than win. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/10 "2004-07-21T16:51:01Z")
> the interface looks good, only because it’s going to follow apple’s lead Just because it looks good doesn’t mean it’s following apple’s lead… I don’t see anything in there that really reminds me of apple… * * * In XP you can totally turn all the graphics and functions and all that junk off so that it ends up looking basically like win2000 or whatever. > I wish someone would make a bare bones, stable, simple, functional, secure, OS, which runs all the software. No fancy windows, no pretty boy graphics (save that for the 13yr old girls )… I think XP has just about all that, except secure, but I don’t think that can even be fully expected with such a widely-used OS. My XP comp is definitely very stable, way way more stable than any OSX Mac I’ve ever used, and just as stable as the small amount of linux I’ve tried. > I think most people do buy a new mouse, just easier to use I’ve seen dozens of macs in all sorts of situations, and almost none of the users ever bother to change the mice(except when they are those retarded “puck” mice). Brutally “unique” single buttons… > because a Mac is faster in every respect. Not true at all. I have to use Macs and PC’s in school about 50/50 and let me tell you, the macs make things so much slower, I’m not talking about processor speed or stability issues(which also do occur) but just about plain old usability. The fact that no program seems to be allowed to run truly full screen always is annoying, all the mac stuff always takes up so much of the screen… and you sometimes misclick and then have random windows popping up etc. And if you stick a usb thumb drive in, OSX puts a dozen hidden files on it that you can only see after you put it back in a PC… and on and on… aah i got more but oh well. -EG ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/11 "2004-07-21T17:55:22Z")
Honestly, theres no need to rehash an age old argument. This Mac vs. Windoze vs Linux argument…which is faster or which is better is pointless. On top of that just about everyone that posts something on this topic is basing things on there own personal experience. Each OS has its own strengths and weaknesses and each person percieves the OS differently. It all really depends on what you want out of the OS. I grew up on windoze, but I can’t stand how bloated it is these days. That doesn’t make it any less of an OS. It just doesn’t fit _my_ needs anymore. From magazines that I read and people i know in the industry…Macs seem to be better for Audio/Video production, but that doesn’t make it any better of an OS. Linux is great for servers and security, but again, that doesn’t make it any better or worse. What OS you use or don’t use just depends on what you want to do with it, what you want out of it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/12 "2004-07-23T02:12:10Z")
[font=Arial][font=Verdana]I was at a Microsoft meeting in Chicago and one of the presenters had a demo of windows longhorn and he did this[/font] [/font] ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/f/c/fc9124afcfd0b478cadfcf2daba4db3ae18cfad1.jpeg) Just by hitting ALT+TAB and you can flip through the windows. It looking really cool.I[font=Arial][font=Verdana] think Microsoft is definitely competing with OS 10 Big time with this one[/font] [/font] ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/13 "2004-07-23T03:17:23Z")
You can already flip through the windows by hitting Alt+ Tab. You can even see a preview of what the window looks like. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/14 "2004-07-23T03:55:42Z")
I think that is possible using TweakUI or the PowerToys, but it isn’t nearly as cool as the slightly slanted look 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/15 "2004-07-23T03:59:05Z")
but the the edges are really messed up, I’m not sure if that’s just because it’s resized or because it’s coming from microsoft :P, anyways, it’s gonna get really confusing when the top window is not the one highlighted on the bottom like in the picture :h: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:33am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/16 "2004-07-23T04:33:37Z")
They need anti-aliasing. > [@kirupa](#): > > I think that is possible using TweakUI or the PowerToys, but it isn’t nearly as cool as the slightly slanted look 🙂 That’s what I was talking about. The current way (TweakUI or PowerToys) seems more functional though. You can see the whole window in that, not just the first 100 pixels or so. We’ll have to wait to see that implemented in a more than screenshot media type before we can judge it too much. :sure: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/17 "2004-07-23T16:19:37Z")
> [@Krilnon](#): > > They need anti-aliasing. That alone would make most old PCs incapable of running Longhorn 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/18 "2004-07-24T03:52:15Z")
> [@Krilnon](#): > > You can already flip through the windows by hitting Alt+ Tab. You can even see a preview of what the window looks like. Yeah i already know that 😉 but you wont get this screen if you do it now. I think it is low quality, so you don’t kill your graphics card loading the windows up all 3D like. [color=black][font=Arial]Shifting thought the windows like a deck of cards.[/font][/color] ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 4:00am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/19 "2004-07-24T04:00:06Z")
Yeah - this seems really cool. I think this 3D feature is what was once called Chrome Effects; which they were showcasing for Windows 98 during the introduction of AGP and MMX about 4 or 5 years ago. I’m sure by the time 2005/2006 rolls around, majority of all PCs that _should_ upgrade to Longhorn will be capable of displaying these 3D effects. I doubt it takes up that much system resources now that I think about it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938/20 "2004-07-24T13:49:54Z")
yeah, but one, the aliasing still looks worse than the cool alt+tab menu and two, it doesn’t show as much 😜 [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/ms-longhorn-prototype-gallery/109938.md?page=2)