# New comp?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309>\
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**Created:** [September 7, 2002, 6:54am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309 "2002-09-07T06:54:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 6:23am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/61 "2002-09-11T06:23:27Z")

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good ideas so far… I am really looking forward to this when it begins! Thought: I think having contests in other areas of focus (ie Photoshop) is a great idea. One thing though - this site is geared towards flash (mostly) so what would you say about still having an AS comp every month then occasionally throw in a photoshop comp with it. Then you dont exclude people that come here for only flash related things. Just something I was thinking about, because I go to an entirely different forum for photoshop stuff, so that lead me to this. I dunno how feasable it would be to have two projects to judge every now and again… but hey, an idea.

Peace

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/62 "2002-09-11T06:40:18Z")

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i don’t know… judging isn’t nearly as hard as coming up with the stuff… I think that’s a great thought.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 6:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/63 "2002-09-11T06:45:29Z")

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The ideas are pouring out now…🙂

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/64 "2002-09-11T07:12:24Z")

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here they come 😛 …

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/65 "2002-09-11T11:50:42Z")

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That is brilliant! I am not sure I can line up sponsors for prizes every month, but every two months or so we can have a contest similar to this. This time let’s start off with ActionScript, the next time it can be a PhotoShop competition, etc. Basically it has to be about a program that many people have and understand how to use.

Cheers!  
Kirupa :rambo:

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2002, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/66 "2002-09-14T19:19:44Z")

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Wow! Took me ages to read all that! A few things I wanted to say:

First, the file I gave was just a grid. Without any effect, so that people who don’t know how the hell they’re going to make the grid have a starting point. Now if you want to have an idea of what I had in mind, you can check this:  
[A grid](http://membres.lycos.fr/museebranly/flash/grids03.html)  
Click and hold gently around and you’ll see. Or not so gently. 🙂

About that moderator thing. Dan, let me tell you that I had to hit my head against the wall to write that ‘Mods won’t participate thing’. If Kirupa wants us to participate, I’ll be delighted.

About that level thing, I think it can’t be done if we invite people from ‘outside’. If Robert Penner comes around saying he’s a newbie, how are we going to know? But it is true that having people competing against mods is illogical. Having mods competing against each other is illogical too, because we don’t have the same scripting level. So what should we do? Dunno…

And for the moment, no 3DSMAX, no Photoshop, please 😛 It’s an AS contest. You’ll do what you want next month.

pom :asian:

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2002, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/67 "2002-09-14T19:32:22Z")

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That grid this is pretty sweet Ilyas. I find that hard to compete with…haha. I will try though.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/68 "2002-09-14T19:57:19Z")

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Wow a contest, that’s brilliant!🙂

However I won’t participate, I am an newbie in Flash. 3D studio max (never used it), photoshop (never used it). I think we should indeed just keep it with flash.

I only hope you guys don’t forget the newbies, who still have a 56 k modem!! :\*(

However If indeed a contest comes, I hope the beginners can learn from it to! :-\

DidiusTheGreat

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2002, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/69 "2002-09-14T23:27:55Z")

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Hi everyone,  
Ok, I’ve almost finished all the contest preparations: [http://www.kirupa.com/contest/index.htm](http://www.kirupa.com/contest/index.htm)

Now, I have a few more questions lol:

1.) Should the people who submit provide their FLA’s as well?  
2.) How will the voting process be? Will all the entries in the final days of the contest be placed in a gigantic poll for people to vote for? The problem I see with that is that many may not see ALL the entries, and therefore, some of the entries toward the bottom may be at a disadvantage. I want it to be fair and balanced…should there be a preliminary voting by a few non-partisan individuals (aka those who don’t participate such as myself) who pick the best twenty entries and then allow the people to vote?  
3.) What will the size requirement be for the entries?  
4.) What name should the new forum created just for the contest be called? “Competitions” maybe ;)?

Finally, I am aware this contest is aimed primarily at actionscripters. There did not seem to be any easy way of making a contest in which everyone could have an equal opportunity of participating. MODS WILL BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE! Again, moderators will be allowed to participate. Please don’t circumvent the voting or do anything that will make the competition unfair - for you as moderators have great powers to bend polls and aything else to your own will :evil:

I am not asking all these questions to be picky (no???), but these are questions that people will have. It’s better to have these issues resolved before the contest goes live. If human nature were perfect, rules would not be needed, but alas we can use the imperfections of human natures to our benefit =)

If anyone thinks of anything else that needs to be added to the rules, don’t hesitate to tell me. All opinions are welcome.

Cheers!  
Kirupa 😛

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/70 "2002-09-15T01:57:42Z")

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Hmm, lets see…

1. Yes, I think they should supply an FLA file.

2. I don’t think we should have an unlimited amount of entries, simply for the fact that people will not want to peruse through all of them. I like your idea of top 20.

3. I am guessing size means file size, I don’t think their should be a limit. Although we don’t want file sizes that are outragous, it is hard to set a limit because different effects could change the file size so it will vary A LOT, unless you can set a semi-high size that a file most likely will not pass.

4)“Kirupa Forum AS Competition” or if I think of anything clever I will bring it up, but my mind is blank right now.

I read everything and I do agree with the rules.

Your text next to your flash title on both the rules and prizes page still link to your MX photo gallery. I thought you would like to know that.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/71 "2002-09-15T07:37:09Z")

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> 1.) Should the people who submit provide their FLA’s as well?

Absolutely. If someone is plagerizing another programer the only way to tell is to have the source code availiable to us.

> 2.) How will the voting process be? Will all the entries in the final days of the contest be placed in a gigantic poll for people to vote for? The problem I see with that is that many may not see ALL the entries, and therefore, some of the entries toward the bottom may be at a disadvantage. I want it to be fair and balanced…should there be a preliminary voting by a few non-partisan individuals (aka those who don’t participate such as myself) who pick the best twenty entries and then allow the people to vote?

Well… I think that all entries should be held in secret until all entries have been made… in general though I would like us to try to keep the voting as a single run of votes, based upon someone seeing every entry at once. Sometimes if you have illimination rounds people complain of fixes in the judging process. Course I might just be being paranoid.

> 3.) What will the size requirement be for the entries?

Should be different depending upon the project. In general though we should keep them low… below half a meg at least… if not smaller.

> 4.) What name should the new forum created just for the contest be called? “Competitions” maybe ;)?

Give me a few minutes on this. I’ll bet I come up with a winner.

> Finally, I am aware this contest is aimed primarily at actionscripters. There did not seem to be any easy way of making a contest in which everyone could have an equal opportunity of participating. MODS WILL BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE! Again, moderators will be allowed to participate. Please don’t circumvent the voting or do anything that will make the competition unfair - for you as moderators have great powers to bend polls and aything else to your own will  
> Muhahahahaha

whatever do you mean. 😉

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/72 "2002-09-15T17:36:01Z")

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My Two cents:

1.) Should the people who submit provide their FLA’s as well?

Definitely. Otherwise how are we supposed to learn anything 🙂

2.) How will the voting process be? Will all the entries in the final days of the contest be placed in a gigantic poll for people to vote for? The problem I see with that is that many may not see ALL the entries, and therefore, some of the entries toward the bottom may be at a disadvantage. I want it to be fair and balanced…should there be a preliminary voting by a few non-partisan individuals (aka those who don’t participate such as myself) who pick the best twenty entries and then allow the people to vote?

Well, why not do 2 votes. A bit like in Cannes festival. The official jury, and the prizes given by the public. Kirupa and a little bunch could choose their favorite file, and give that person something, and we have another vote, independent, where Kirupa and Co select a bunch of files to choose from. Just an idea (cos I agree with Upu about the fact that we should ‘try to keep the voting as a single run of votes, based upon someone seeing every entry at once.’ And at the same time it’s better if everybody has its word to say.  
But Upu, I don’t understand why we should keep them secret.

3.) What will the size requirement be for the entries?

It’s script, with no graphics, so 10 kb should be more than enough. The file I sent is less than 1kb.

4.) What name should the new forum created just for the contest be called? “Competitions” maybe ;)?

Competitions, contest… I don’t like too much. Too serious 😛

What do you think?

pom :asian:

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/73 "2002-09-15T18:26:41Z")

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Hey,

I’m wondering what the time limit for this is? As in when the competition closes off and the judging/submission review starts.

Danke,

Uth :nerd:

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/74 "2002-09-15T19:07:12Z")

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I think, Pom, by ‘keeping it secret’, I was meaning something other than what you got. What I meant was that, probebly, no one should see ANY entries until they have all been made. That would prevent a bunch of situations from arrising which might give one person an edge, or a preconcieved notion about what he/she might be up against in that particular round of entries.

the name the name… still trying to think of a cool name. 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/75 "2002-09-15T19:31:00Z")

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Uthar\>\>We’ll worry about that when the contest starts 😛

And Upu, I see what you mean… OK, why not.  
And about the name, let’s just take Flashturbating. I’m sure Dan’s with me on that one. 🙂

pom :asian:

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/76 "2002-09-15T19:34:33Z")

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It will be the “Who can flashturbate the best?” contest!!!

haha:P

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/77 "2002-09-15T19:38:36Z")

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wow wow, wacht you language!! :o 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/78 "2002-09-15T19:40:03Z")

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ILYAS STARTED IT!!!😛

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/79 "2002-09-15T19:41:13Z")

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hahahaha, I’ll just tell what i feel:

I LOVE KIRUPA, IT IS A GREAT PLACE!

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/new-comp/5309/80 "2002-09-15T20:58:45Z")

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Come on, Lost, putting the blame on me is a bit easy :evil:

There should be something including the idea that we’ll learn something, that’s it’s fun and of course that it’s a competition, don’t you think?

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