# Nokrev - Fight Me \>:(

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426>\
**Category:** random\
**Created:** [April 13, 2006, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426 "2006-04-13T09:40:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hl1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/hl1/32/849_2.png) [@hl1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hl1)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/41 "2006-04-13T20:15:21Z")

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Finally read this thread. All i’ve got to say is they both have purposes. If you integrate, you’ve got the best of both worlds.

Oh and, wants wrong with SimpleBits? Looks kinda good 🙂

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**Author:** ![frankiebones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@frankiebones](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/frankiebones)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/42 "2006-04-13T20:20:18Z")

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[COLOR=#003366][https://www.shopcomposition.com/secure.aspx[/COLOR][URL=“http://www.shopcomposistion.com”]](https://www.shopcomposition.com/secure.aspx)

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**Author:** ![SeiferTim](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/seifertim/32/188_2.png) [@SeiferTim](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/SeiferTim)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/43 "2006-04-13T20:22:38Z")

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> [@frankiebones](#):
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> [www.shopcomposistion.com](http://www.shopcomposistion.com)

404’D!!:red:

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**Author:** ![NeoDreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@NeoDreamer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/NeoDreamer)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/44 "2006-04-13T20:22:41Z")

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The most profitable and high traffic websites are not Flashed-up. Look here: [http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top\_500](http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_500)

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**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/45 "2006-04-13T20:26:21Z")

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You ladies are unbelievable :lol:

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**Author:** ![frankiebones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@frankiebones](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/frankiebones)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/46 "2006-04-13T20:26:33Z")

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You have some valid points but you can use XML or TXT files outside of Flash and those can be searched by the seach engines.

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**Author:** ![frankiebones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3bc359/32.png) [@frankiebones](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/frankiebones)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/47 "2006-04-13T20:30:38Z")

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> [@SeiferTim](#):
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> 404’D!!:red:

check again guy. I screwed up the link when I typed it in.

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**Author:** ![haam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a698b9/32.png) [@haam](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/haam)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/48 "2006-04-13T20:31:04Z")

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could someone show me a “good looking” or even “remotely interesting” CSS site - cuzzz, i don’t think i’ve ever seen one.

:stunned:

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**Author:** ![Stratification](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@Stratification](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Stratification)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/49 "2006-04-13T20:42:42Z")

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> [@haam](#):
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> could someone show me a “good looking” or even “remotely interesting” CSS site - cuzzz, i don’t think i’ve ever seen one.
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> :stunned:

Did you look at the [www.csszengarden.com](http://www.csszengarden.com) link posted earlier? Lots of “remotely interesting” things done with CSS.

To respond to the general thread, I think the most rational consensus here is to use the right tool for the job. I’d venture that anyone that proclaims either approach as “stupid” is missing the point.

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**Author:** ![B\_L\_U\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@B\_L\_U\_E](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/B_L_U_E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/50 "2006-04-13T22:01:32Z")

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> [@haam](#):
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> could someone show me a “good looking” or even “remotely interesting” CSS site - cuzzz, i don’t think i’ve ever seen one.
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> :stunned:

Ditto. :cowboy:

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**Author:** ![Mik3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@Mik3](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Mik3)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/51 "2006-04-13T22:24:52Z")

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I don’t see flash sites working on many mobile or simple browsers.  
I don’t see flash sites delivering informative content quickly, efficiently and economically.  
I don’t see flash sites delivering large quantities of information.  
I don’t see flash sites being usable with the browser or being as easily dynamic as sites crafted with CSS styling.

Oh yeah, and I think you might want to remove nokrev from the title considering he’s not alone on supporting CSS, there are many here who support it.

CSS and Flash sites are different and for different target audiences.

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**Author:** ![lunatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/73ab20/32.png) [@lunatic](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/lunatic)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/52 "2006-04-13T22:25:04Z")

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> [@BlueNar](#):
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> Ditto. :cowboy:

funny you should say that - we have a user (now mod :pleased: ) here named ditt0 that is the css queen. Her personal website I think is very tasty and done in css.

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**Author:** ![B\_L\_U\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@B\_L\_U\_E](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/B_L_U_E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/53 "2006-04-13T22:37:17Z")

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> [@Mik3](#):
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> I don’t see flash sites working on many mobile or simple browsers.  
> I don’t see flash sites delivering informative content quickly, efficiently and economically.  
> I don’t see flash sites delivering large quantities of information.  
> I don’t see flash sites being usable with the browser or being as easily dynamic as sites crafted with CSS styling.

But you see, I can point out just as many disadvantages for CSS. Two _different_ mediums. I think it’s kind of pointless to argue about which is superior.

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**Author:** ![Mik3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@Mik3](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Mik3)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/54 "2006-04-13T22:49:33Z")

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> [@BlueNar](#):
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> But you see, I can point out just as many disadvantages for CSS. Two _different_ mediums. I think it’s kind of pointless to argue about which is superior.

Exactly what I said. Why didn’t you quote the rest of my post? ahaha

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**Author:** ![B\_L\_U\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@B\_L\_U\_E](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/B_L_U_E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/55 "2006-04-13T22:56:14Z")

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> [@Mik3](#):
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> Exactly what I said. Why didn’t you quote the rest of my post? ahaha

Oh it just seemed you were a bit biased, thats all. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ben\_Smith](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/ben_smith/32/1118_2.png) [@Ben\_Smith](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Ben_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/56 "2006-04-13T23:04:45Z")

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Flame war, Flame war, Flame war!  
I apologise if this outburst was incorrect, I only read the post title and the first entry.

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**Author:** ![Theros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Theros](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Theros)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/57 "2006-04-13T23:26:18Z")

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Well… I’ve missed 3 whole pages of battleground! _Grabs CSS sword_ “Die flash developers, die!”

Well not, I don’t hate flash that much, but again its like the Windows Vrs. Mac agrument. Windows doesnt make hardware does it? 😛

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**Author:** ![DDD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DDD](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/DDD)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/58 "2006-04-13T23:29:31Z")

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> [@haam](#):
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> could someone show me a “good looking” or even “remotely interesting” CSS site - cuzzz, i don’t think i’ve ever seen one.
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> :stunned:

you’ll find a bunch here.

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Oh and please you guys dont make this so personal…I think it is agreed that each serve a purpose. The problem lies in the designer that doesnt know that purpose.

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**Author:** ![anon1712571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@anon1712571](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anon1712571)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/59 "2006-04-13T23:37:40Z")

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**Author:** ![B\_L\_U\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@B\_L\_U\_E](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/B_L_U_E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/60 "2006-04-13T23:43:13Z")

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[SIZE=“2”][COLOR=“Red”]ddd edit - removed your quote, lets not make it personal[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Is he trying to promote himself, or rather Flash development? I don’t see him attempting to brag. _But_ if it’s simply high-quality flash work you are wanting to see, I’m sure you can find plenty from awards sites, etc.

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