# Nokrev - Fight Me \>:( **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [April 13, 2006, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426 "2006-04-13T09:40:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sliker\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Sliker\_Hawk](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Sliker_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/81 "2006-04-14T11:51:57Z")
> [@matthewjumps](#): > > … people want aesthitics, and the elements of motion… Not true. Most end users just want to read things, or buy things on the internet, and they don’t want to have to wait for their content. I assume by ‘users’ you mean end users. And last time you quoted me, you missed out the rest of that sentence; > [@Sliker\_Hawk](#): > > … not for websites. [whisper]I don’t mean to come across arrogant in this post.[/whisper] ---
**Author:** ![krilnon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/krilnon/32/34_2.png) [@krilnon](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/krilnon)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/82 "2006-04-14T12:17:11Z")
> [@nokrev](#): > > [whisper]Did anybody notice that Matthew didn’t even get a warning for creating such a flaming thread? Seriously… if I had created something like… “Matthew - Fight Me \> [noparse]:([/noparse]” about how Flash sucks, I would’ve been [uber]-warned![/whisper] Also, threads that have already been discussed and are ‘Ordered-like’ are usually closed before the same things are discussed over. (And tempers flare once more) ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/83 "2006-04-14T14:18:32Z")
Meh, the thread is fine. I don’t really mind it. Somebody just mentioned it to me, and it was a pretty good point. :lol: Don’t worry about it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/84 "2006-04-14T16:02:22Z")
6 pages to this krapp already??? :huh: ---
**Author:** ![love\_police](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@love\_police](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/love_police)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/85 "2006-04-14T16:12:27Z")
i see this is a fighting thread, but where are the trout slappers? :trout: :trout: ---
**Author:** ![hl1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/hl1/32/849_2.png) [@hl1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hl1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/86 "2006-04-14T16:59:10Z")
![](http://forum.kirupa.com/uploads/kirupa/6834/f90cb80768a1504b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![lunatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/73ab20/32.png) [@lunatic](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/lunatic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/87 "2006-04-14T17:10:20Z")
Believe me, we’re keeping a close eye on it. To be honest, I’m surprised it has gone on this long. I mena, 6 pages? Of what? Pointless banter IMO. I’m sort of hoping interest in it just dies and it goes away . . . ---
**Author:** ![hl1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/hl1/32/849_2.png) [@hl1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hl1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/88 "2006-04-14T18:20:09Z")
> [@nokrev](#): > > [whisper]Did anybody notice that Matthew didn’t even get a warning for creating such a flaming thread? Seriously… if I had created something like… “Matthew - Fight Me \> [noparse]:([/noparse]” about how Flash sucks, I would’ve been [uber]-warned![/whisper] Are you a secret mod? I thought that warnings are only viewable by the mods? ---
**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/89 "2006-04-14T18:26:08Z")
Request: Topic be closed before any one gets hurt with all the ‘Flashy’ CSS edge! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![hl1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/hl1/32/849_2.png) [@hl1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hl1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/90 "2006-04-14T18:32:23Z")
![](http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8581/hijack5rs.gif) [size=1]despite my contribution :)[/size] ---
**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/91 "2006-04-14T20:15:26Z")
Remind me to start a kill Flash and CSS movement when I come to my senses 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Theros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Theros](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Theros)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/92 "2006-04-14T20:27:18Z")
We’ll just have to put aside our differences and do a preemptive strike first… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/93 "2006-04-14T20:34:01Z")
STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! :lol: During the length of this strike I refuse to kick Jack Bauer’s, Mr. T’s and Chuck Norris’ azzes! ---
**Author:** ![SlowRoasted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@SlowRoasted](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/SlowRoasted)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/94 "2006-04-14T20:41:30Z")
Hey, I just do what the client tells me. If they want flash I give them flash. If they want CSS and no flash, I’m happy to do that too. I don’t think flash is overused, maybe I just don’t surf enough. But saying that the web is just for fast access to info is wrong. Many sites are all about building a certain atmosphere or environment for users to experience. I think flash is a great way to obtain those. ---
**Author:** ![matthewjumps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@matthewjumps](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/matthewjumps)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/95 "2006-04-15T00:41:49Z")
i am glad i started this thread - and glad its lasted 7 pages - ive got a few good laughs out of it and its all been in pretty good humour… and i think we all agree in essence - each tool has its strengths and weaknesses, just like each designer… ---
**Author:** ![soulty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/soulty/32/105_2.png) [@soulty](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/soulty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/96 "2006-04-15T00:54:08Z")
> [@SlowRoasted](#): > > But saying that the web is just for fast access to info is wrong. Many sites are all about building a certain atmosphere or environment for users to experience. I think flash is a great way to obtain those. IF that was directed to me then you should read my post again, i said its prime purpose in my opinion is to provide quick access to information…prime purpose, secondary to that is advertising(what i call animated brochure) type sites that sells a product or service. Quite obviously the internet is more than just the “information superhighway” that it used to be and i quite agree that flash has it’s place in the internet to provide user with “more interactive experiences” but the bare basics of the web is still to provide information to the user, for example, rss feeds, blog’s, forums etc… ---
**Author:** ![matthewjumps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@matthewjumps](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/matthewjumps)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/97 "2006-04-15T02:08:43Z")
as long as it supplies me with a roast chicken im happy :bounce: ---
**Author:** ![matthewjumps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@matthewjumps](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/matthewjumps)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/98 "2006-04-18T01:08:31Z")
like heres a site [http://guilago.se/](http://guilago.se/) that was listed on [http://www.cssbeauty.com/](http://www.cssbeauty.com/) for its nice CSS - but the top image and nav are flash. so yea they used the right tools for the right bits. ---
**Author:** ![soulty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/soulty/32/105_2.png) [@soulty](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/soulty)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/99 "2006-04-18T01:56:49Z")
^ whats nice about that site other than it being a very nice design is that if you take away the css and the flash you still have a functional website. Check the source you will notice there is a text based nav there additional to the footer nav. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@Phoenix221](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phoenix221)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/nokrev-fight-me/185426/100 "2006-04-18T02:18:55Z")
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