# On Tagging Threads

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010>\
**Category:** random\
**Created:** [June 22, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010 "2008-06-22T01:34:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BS1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@BS1](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/BS1)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/21 "2008-06-22T18:08:10Z")

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> Can we have two provisions? BS is still not funny, and Jeff smells? Don’t lie BS, you like the attention.

I love the attention

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**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/22 "2008-06-22T18:14:17Z")

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[quote=nobody;2347022]It’s not our responsibility to babysit you guys and go through each thread and each tag and pick out the offending ones. It’s (collectively) your responsibility as members of the community to keep it positive and refrain from this nonsense.

Stop. I will- st- st-. I said stop i-

I WILL TURN THIS CAR AROUND.[/quote]

Sure it’s not your responsibility to babysit anyone. But I really doubt that the mods don’t have the option(s) to monitor who’s been writing what in the tags.

You guys monitor each and every thread as it is. All that is added to a thread this way is a few words - tags. Someone acts like a fool, you take action. Simple. Isn’t that what you guys have been doing all along?

I honestly do not see the point of this rant. I agree it is collectively the entire community’s responsibility to keep it “all good”, but that doesn’t really happen, does it? So to me, at the end of it all, it seems that you’re just raged about 4 words added to a thread containing anywhere between 400 to 4 million words.

If someone says something stupid in a discussion or posts spam or acts ignorant, you guys are always there to save the day (and I can usually admire that). But seriously, are you trying to tell me that monitoring a few added words, on the same page as the thread, a few _tags_ are gonna be very different from what you do on a daily basis?

We can debate about this extremely frivolous issue till infinity but the fact is, tags are just groups of words like any other comment/reply in a thread. The good and useful ones are rare, the funny ones are usually funny, the bad ones are kicked in the butt. As simple as that.

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**Author:** ![sekasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@sekasi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sekasi)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/23 "2008-06-22T18:30:34Z")

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Judging from Phenex … ‘interesting’… response I’d say Tags might as well have to go in this forum if that is the attitude that people have.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/24 "2008-06-22T18:42:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Phenex;2347140]Sure it’s not your responsibility to babysit anyone. But I really doubt that the mods don’t have the option(s) to monitor who’s been writing what in the tags.

You guys monitor each and every thread as it is. All that is added to a thread this way is a few words - tags. Someone acts like a fool, you take action. Simple. Isn’t that what you guys have been doing all along?

I honestly do not see the point of this rant. I agree it is collectively the entire community’s responsibility to keep it “all good”, but that doesn’t really happen, does it? So to me, at the end of it all, it seems that you’re just raged about 4 words added to a thread containing anywhere between 400 to 4 million words.

If someone says something stupid in a discussion or posts spam or acts ignorant, you guys are always there to save the day (and I can usually admire that). But seriously, are you trying to tell me that monitoring a few added words, on the same page as the thread, a few _tags_ are gonna be very different from what you do on a daily basis?

We can debate about this extremely frivolous issue till infinity but the fact is, tags are just groups of words like any other comment/reply in a thread. The good and useful ones are rare, the funny ones are usually funny, the bad ones are kicked in the butt. As simple as that.[/QUOTE]

First of all if this is such a minor issue why did you waste your time (and mine) with such a long response? Do you have some deep desire to be able to tag however you please and it’s going to cause you unjust pain to _not_ tag threads?

Secondly, let me reiterate, it’s not my job to babysit. I, the other mods, and Kirupa shouldn’t have to dig through each thread and look for offending tags. You should all be able to behave as vaguely mature humanesque beings.

Maybe try dropping the sense of entitlement.

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**Author:** ![shane\_c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@shane\_c](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/shane_c)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/25 "2008-06-22T18:55:39Z")

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I have giggled many times at some of the tags. If they really are causing a problem, then obviously it’s not a big deal to do away with them. But if they are just not really meaningful, then why not let those of us with undeveloped senses of humor have our fun?

That said, I don’t really care. Good-bye tags, you were a saucy courtesan while it lasted.

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**Author:** ![DanontheMoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/danonthemoon/32/7436_2.png) [@DanontheMoon](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/DanontheMoon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/26 "2008-06-22T18:56:26Z")

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> [@nobody](#):
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> I WILL TURN THIS CAR AROUND.

That is so my joke. 😏

@Lissy - that Reaper tag is awesome.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/27 "2008-06-22T19:29:33Z")

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[QUOTE=shane-c;2347154]I have giggled many times at some of the tags. If they really are causing a problem, then obviously it’s not a big deal to do away with them. But if they are just not really meaningful, then why not let those of us with undeveloped senses of humor have our fun?

That said, I don’t really care. Good-bye tags, you were a saucy courtesan while it lasted.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think there’s a problem with harmless fun (also this whole thing is just weird coming from me in general) but when members are getting insulted and people are just being generally rude we have a problem.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/28 "2008-06-22T19:33:01Z")

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When was a member insulted? I think any member who was mentioned in any tags felt more honored than angry. 😉

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**Author:** ![TheCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheCanadian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheCanadian)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/29 "2008-06-22T20:16:17Z")

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So you like the jeff smells tags?

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**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/30 "2008-06-22T20:25:59Z")

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> [@nobody](#):
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> First of all if this is such a minor issue why did you waste your time (and mine) with such a long response?

You are either missing out on the whole point or doing exactly what I said… Debating for no reason at all. You vote against tags, fine, get um out! We don’t need tags to be honest. kF is well scrawled without the need for added tags and the site’s search engine is pretty good too for any relevant or irrelevant information.

The point is that the nature of the action proposed is unjustified, like it has been on a few occasions in the past. Anyway, coming to this topic solely…

> [@nobody](#):
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> but when members are getting insulted and people are just being generally rude we have a problem.

> [@Jeff Wheeler](#):
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> When was a member insulted?

Also, again, why not take action against the offender rather than just chucking out a feature/thought. Oh and btw, again let me please repeat myself - being insulting and rude in general, isn’t that something we’ve dealt with even when tags weren’t there? What’s changed?

> [@nobody](#):
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> I, the other mods, and Kirupa shouldn’t have to dig through each thread and look for offending tags.

Then why just tags? Mods and Kirupa shouldn’t have to monitor anything at all. I agree with you a 100%. I don’t see where your blunt edge is.

It’s not a perfect world. If that were the case, there wouldn’t be a need to appoint mods in the first place.

> [@nobody](#):
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> You should all be able to behave as vaguely mature humanesque beings.

**You** being the keyword here, instead of ‘we’? Really, more arrogant bs than I expected. But anyway, I’m okay with it because it doesn’t bother me.

> [@nobody](#):
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> Maybe try dropping the sense of entitlement.

Maybe try not having epiphanies of burgeoning self-righteousness.

To retrace the course of this discussion for a brief moment…

> [@Phenex](#):
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> Get rid of tags that are bashful or insulting. Let the rest stay. It’s not a freaking epidemic. Sheesh!

…was a casual response to…

> [@Digitalosophy](#):
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> I actually think we shouldn’t allow tags in random.

…which somehow hit your soft spots.

I actually agree with this part of Digi’s reply though…

> [@Digitalosophy](#):
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> There’s really no point, how many times do you actually search for something in random.

Oh and my final response - I don’t care if the tags stay or go. It’s just that when someone in an authoritative position comes up with an extremely innovative idea, such as getting rid of tags or anything else in general, I tend to try and question the logic behind it. Simple and nothing personal.

And the reason behind thinking of everyone as something even lesser than “vaguely mature humanesque beings” would now be a pleasure to know too.

I’m off.

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/31 "2008-06-22T20:30:28Z")

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I’m not going to lie, I’m not reading any of that.

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**Author:** ![Templarian](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/templarian/32/7152_2.png) [@Templarian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Templarian)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/32 "2008-06-22T20:35:25Z")

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![](http://forum.kirupa.com/uploads/kirupa/6982/c9899159178e1ae8.jpg)

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**Author:** ![sekasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@sekasi](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/sekasi)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/33 "2008-06-22T20:44:01Z")

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> [@Phenex;2347189](#):
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> Then why just tags? Mods and Kirupa shouldn’t have to monitor anything at all. I agree with you a 100%. I don’t see where your blunt edge is.

Because more work != less work. I’m baffled at how you can not catch that correlation.

> [@Phenex;2347189](#):
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> You being the keyword here, instead of ‘we’? Really, more arrogant bs than I expected. But anyway, I’m okay with it because it doesn’t bother me. Maybe try not having epiphanies of burgeoning self-righteousness.

I still can’t catch what you are actually going for here. You are essentially arguing with a moderator that is asking people to stop posting ridiculous tags to save the moderators some work.

> [@Phenex;2347189](#):
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> It’s just that when someone in an authoritative position comes up with an extremely innovative idea, such as getting rid of tags or anything else in general, I tend to try and question the logic behind it. And the reason behind thinking of everyone as something even lesser than “vaguely mature humanesque beings” would now be a pleasure to know too.

Unless you’ve been living in a cave in Delhi for the majority of your mature years, you’d know that a lot of people react to anonymity the same way English people react to beer and football. It just goes crazy. Even if everyone here are ‘sorta’ anonymous, the tags were completely so. The whole thread started about asking people to chill out the immaturity in the tags or they would have to go.

It’s quite mindboggling how you can turn that into some weird authoritarian oppression fantasy.

👁

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**Author:** ![nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@nobody](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/nobody)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/34 "2008-06-22T20:53:00Z")

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^Yeah.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/35 "2008-06-22T20:54:11Z")

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[QUOTE=TheCanadian;2347183]So you like the jeff smells tags?[/QUOTE]

I don’t mind them, and if they give some people some pleasure, I’m totally fine with that.

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**Author:** ![TheCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheCanadian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheCanadian)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/36 "2008-06-22T21:05:36Z")

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Oh yes, it’s very pleasurable.

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**Author:** ![fasterthanlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@fasterthanlight](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/fasterthanlight)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/37 "2008-06-22T21:17:12Z")

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Reading this thread requires a lot of effort, haha

But as I said in some other thread, the useless, passive aggressive tags Nobody mentioned, only really seem to pop up in Random, and maybe in the test forum… most useful threads (ie: ones that aren’t in random, and who’s topic of conversation isn’t strayed) aren’t inviting environments for random tags…

The random tags don’t really exist for actual, awesome threads, ones where people’s problems get solved, and are worth searching for.

And I thought random was supposed to be random?  
Though, I understand why there’s a problem with people taking shots at each other under cover of tags… obviously.

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**Author:** ![blazes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@blazes](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/blazes)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/38 "2008-06-22T21:50:46Z")

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I would like to state that I started BS still isn’t funny.

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**Author:** ![Esherido](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/esherido/32/2158_2.png) [@Esherido](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Esherido)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/39 "2008-06-22T22:05:11Z")

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This thread is a straight shooter towards lockdom.

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**Author:** ![Anogar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Anogar](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Anogar)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/on-tagging-threads/264010/40 "2008-06-23T03:37:59Z")

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> [@nobody;2347196](#):
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> I’m not going to lie, I’m not reading any of that.

He said that you’re a big poo poo head, and that he thinks his infantile lashes at perceived authority will him him laid.

(Is that about right? I didn’t read it all either. :lol:)

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