# Operating Systems Problem **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [May 30, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139 "2003-05-30T20:45:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/21 "2003-06-01T03:56:11Z")
yes you can just get virtualpc for windows and you can install any os on your hd and still keep your windows xp partition 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/22 "2003-06-01T03:58:45Z")
virtual pc? i thought that was for macs…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/23 "2003-06-01T04:03:34Z")
nope theres also a pc version :beam: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/24 "2003-06-01T04:06:18Z")
is tat like running xp under it? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/25 "2003-06-01T04:20:00Z")
no you run win98 on winxp its like an emulator ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/26 "2003-06-01T04:22:36Z")
but then i still won’t have exactly windows 98, i’m using it because xp requires more to play games, BF1942 works beautifully on 98, but really choppy on xp…i don’t think virtual os can do that kind of effect ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/27 "2003-06-01T04:25:48Z")
well if you dont try it youll never know now will you?? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/28 "2003-06-01T04:27:04Z")
well, i’m afriad it might screw up my computer…☹ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/29 "2003-06-01T08:17:26Z")
In the boot order in your BIOS, you have two hard drives > Floppy > ARMD-HDD > IDE-HDD > ATAPI CDROM So if you install Win98, you can change the boot order in your BIOS and change the order of the hard drives (the two things with -HDD at the end) and that will change where your PC looks for things. About installing Win98, it should ask you where you want to install it. In the meantime try the compatibility thing, that might make it work. What is your graphics card? (type dxdiag in run,display tab) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/30 "2003-06-01T10:18:26Z")
> \*Originally posted by Niann \* > \*\*You would need to install 98 first, and you could not use NTFS at all. \*\* NTFS / FAT32 has no significance in the way that the computer boots up, NTFS are for HDDS over 20GB and FAT32 for those under 20. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/31 "2003-06-01T14:18:01Z")
> NTFS / FAT32 has no significance in the way that the computer boots up, NTFS are for HDDS over 20GB and FAT32 for those under 20. My hard drive is exactly 20GB, really pathetic. njs, is my IDE-HDD the partitioned hard drive? How can I find out? I’ll paste my DX thing here: * * * ## System Information Time of this report: 6/1/2003, 10:14:04 Machine name: MAX Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclnt\_qfe.021108-2107) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation System Model: L100R BIOS: DELL - 20010905 Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~996MHz Memory: 254MB RAM Page File: 139MB used, 486MB available Primary File System: n/a DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.0000 32bit Unicode * * * ## DxDiag Notes DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: The file nv4\_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft’s Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a signed driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. Network Tab: No problems found. * * * ## DirectX Components Blah blah blah * * * ## Display Devices ``` Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce2 MX 100/200 DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_00271545&REV_B2 ``` Display Memory: 32.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 753DF(T) Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024 Driver Name: nv4\_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.13.10.4109 (English) DDI Version: 8 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 11/18/2002 15:15:00, 2684298 bytes Driver Signed: No WHQL Date Stamp: None VDD: Mini VDD: nv4.sys Mini VDD Date: 8/17/2001 08:50:26, 731648 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4251-11CF-F866-2D2010C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x10DE Device ID: 0x0111 SubSys ID: 0x00271545 Revision ID: 0x00B2 Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: D3D7 Test Result: D3D8 Test Result: * * * ## Sound Devices ``` Description: Creative Sound Blaster PCI Device ID: PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_1371&SUBSYS_13711274&REV_09 ``` Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: es1371mp.sys Driver Version: 5.01.3612.0000 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Signed: Yes Date and Size: 6/3/2002 11:18:32, 40832 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Creative Technology Ltd. HW Accel Level: Full Registry: OK Sound Test Result: * * * ## DirectMusic Blah blah blah * * * ## DirectShow Filters ## Blah blah blah ## Input Devices ``` Device Name: SideWinder Game Pad USB version 1.0 Provider: Microsoft Hardware ID: USB\Vid_045e&Pid_0007&Rev_0106 Status: 0 Port Name: USB Root Hub Port Provider: (Standard USB Host Controller) Port ID: USB\ROOT_HUB&VID8086&PID2412&REV0002 Port Status: 0 ``` Poll w/ Interrupt: No Registry: OK * * * ## Input Drivers * * * ## DirectPlay Service Providers Blah blah blah * * * ## DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps Sorry for the long post. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/32 "2003-06-01T16:19:39Z")
Right. Try getting new drivers for your graphics card([here](http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_44.03)) and turn the settings down a lot in the games. Consider getting more SDRAM as well. About the hard drives, my advice is just change the order until it boots 98. I have a PC fairly similar to yours, and I can run quite a lot of new games. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/33 "2003-06-01T16:31:25Z")
So basically, I should try to get the new drivers, since I’m getting a new computer by the end of this year, I’m not going to upgrade from 256 anymore. Also, I should try to change the first boot of HD to IDE-HDD right? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/34 "2003-06-01T16:39:49Z")
What I meant was win98 can not read NTFS file system. So any data you have there you could not read when 98 was installed. Cheers! -Niann ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/35 "2003-06-01T16:42:53Z")
ok, but then D drive isn’t NTFS, it’s only FAT32, but then when i install 98 on fat32, it should b able to read it correct? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/36 "2003-06-01T18:40:15Z")
Yep, 98 should work fine. And what I meant was try changing the boot order of the drives after you’d installed Win 98, to see whether this affects whether it boots Win98. Then when you want XP again, change the boot order back. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/37 "2003-06-01T19:13:57Z")
First, I tried isolating IDE-HDD, but that was the C drive and went to XP. Then I tried switching the IDE with ARMD, nothing, goes straight to XP again. Then it turns out that my ARMD is my D drive, I tried to run it as: ARMD-HDD ATAPI CDROM It went to my D drive, but it shows as C:/\> and also, my CD rom didn’t work. Then at last I tried: ATAPI CDROM ARMD-HDD That only ended up asking me to put a bootable disk in A drive, when I put it in, the same message repeats. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139/38 "2003-06-02T21:35:44Z")
Wait, is it possible just for me to install 98 on my ARMD drive, but then, every time I want to start 98, I can just take out the IDE drive from the BIOS, then I’ll just turn it back on later. [Previous page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/operating-systems-problem/22139.md?page=1)