# \[PHP\] Banning People Forever

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php-banning-people-forever/256225>\
**Category:** programming\
**Created:** [April 1, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php-banning-people-forever/256225 "2008-04-01T01:33:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![NeoDreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@NeoDreamer](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/NeoDreamer)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php-banning-people-forever/256225/1 "2008-04-01T01:33:22Z")

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I’m looking for ways to ban people forever (or for a long time) that are better than the traditional cookie and IP banning techniques, which are easily worked around.

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[_] Can PHP get someone’s MAC address and ban them forever?  
[_] If not - I’ve seen traffic tracker sites that can tell which city and country a user is from. Couldn’t you just ban the whole city if one dude from that city is screwing up your site? How does PHP do that?  
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