# Php?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626>\
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**Created:** [March 26, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626 "2003-03-26T22:42:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/21 "2003-03-27T01:21:52Z")

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i cant stand reading threw long boring books, i need something visually and literally appealing. like htmlgoodies, very good site, infact…they probahly have php…

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/22 "2003-03-27T01:24:14Z")

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Google is your friend:

[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=php+tutorials](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=php+tutorials)

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/23 "2003-03-27T01:24:37Z")

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I have the PHP visual book thingy… i was all excited to get it, and once i did and read like 2 pages i realized i didnt have php support on my server. So then I spent money on a server, got php support, and never looked at the book again. Ya know where the book got me? I figured out you use $ a lot… lol  
Now that you guys are talkin about it, i feel like reading the book tho. Nice pointless post eh?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/24 "2003-03-27T01:30:28Z")

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I have the [PHP for the World Wide Web Visual Quickstart Guide](PHP for the World Wide Web Visual Quickstart Guide). It’s a quick and dirty “learn by example” type book.

You might find all PHP books and tutorials boring unless you are excited about coding (like me).

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/25 "2003-03-27T01:36:43Z")

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yeah that book that i posted is a learn by example, gives you real-life examples of stuff that you will need to use…

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/26 "2003-03-27T02:16:53Z")

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asp for life

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/27 "2003-03-27T02:20:47Z")

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PHP OR DEATH!!! :bad:  
😛

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/28 "2003-03-27T03:17:17Z")

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- PHP OR DEATH?
- ah, PHP please
- Very well, Give him php
- Thanks very much, that’s very nice!
- YOU! PHP OR DEATH??
- Um, PHP for me too please
- VERY WELL!! Give him PHP too… we’re going to run out of PHP at this rate… YOU! PHP or DEATH?
- Death please… no, PHP! PHP! Sorry, sorry…
- YOU SAID DEATH FIRST!! AA Ah… You said death first!
- No, I meant PHP…
- Oh, alright. You’re lucky I’m church of England. YOU… PHP OR DEATH?
- PHP for me please…
- Well, WE’RE OUTTA PHP! We only had 3 and we didn’t expect such a rush…

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:23am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/29 "2003-03-27T03:23:40Z")

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lol I was waiting for that! 😛

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/30 "2003-03-27T03:25:50Z")

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haha, yeah, I was typing it, but then I started watching tv… after that I finished it… haha

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/31 "2003-03-27T03:27:44Z")

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lol well boys and gals, I’m going to sleep. talk to you all tomorrow 😛

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/32 "2003-03-27T03:41:52Z")

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php really kicks a\*\*, especially because everything is for free. Not like that awfull [asp.net](http://asp.net) …

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/33 "2003-03-27T03:58:36Z")

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I’ll say this much…

ASP isn’t “horrible”… it’s just not as well developed as PHP is. 🙂

playamarz

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/34 "2003-03-27T05:02:48Z")

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im into php, and i love it =)

click [here](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=php+vs+asp), [size=1]although this thread was about why use php and not php vs asp… :P[/size]

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 8:30am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/35 "2003-03-27T08:30:39Z")

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.net

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/36 "2003-03-27T08:55:57Z")

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I’ve done a bit of CGI, a bit of PHP, a bit of ASP and I’m currently learning ColdFusion. 🙂

They’re all what I would call server-side programming languages, whereas HTML is client side. I think someone has already pointed this out, but I’m not re-reading 3 pages of posts to find out where. 🙂

If you just want to display simple things on screen, then you use HTML. The other languages come in when you want or need to generate content dynamically. So a simple example would be displaying the time or date. You have to get this from the server, so you need a different language to do it. More complex examples are things like Shoutboxes.

All of them have pros and cons. ColdFusion is very much like HTML in that it’s tag based, and I’m finding that simple to learn. It’s powerful too, and integrates with Flash and Dreamweaver.

PHP is good for Tagboxes, email forms etc, although a little more difficult to learn than CF. ASP is a bit more tricky. Plus that will only work on IIS platforms, and there are security issues with those…

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/37 "2003-03-27T08:59:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lavaboy \*  
> \*\*- PHP OR DEATH?

- ah, PHP please
- Very well, Give him php…(clippedForLength)
- Well, WE’RE OUTTA PHP! We only had 3 and we didn’t expect such a rush… \*\*

**Lavaboy** That was fan - phreakin - tastic :!:

veryPythonistic =)

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:35am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/38 "2003-03-27T09:35:50Z")

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hehe, that was really good. Kitira ColdFusion is client sided ? What can you do with it ? Is it a alternative to html ?!?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/39 "2003-03-27T09:45:32Z")

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CF is server side… It works with basically any database to pull out informatino and generate pages dynamically. It can also be used as a search engine as it’s integrated with Verity Search. It even works with Flash MX - so you can code ColdFusion tags into Actionscript to dynamically generate Flash content. 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/php/16626/40 "2003-03-27T16:04:48Z")

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c! html is not even really considered a programming language…if someone asks you what languages do you know, and you reply html…in this design/web devel. world they aren’t going to take it seriously. i’m just being honest with you, I don’t mean to be a downer. These languages are of no comparison to html.

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