# Physics 20 Problem

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278>\
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**Created:** [April 12, 2006, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278 "2006-04-12T05:24:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheCanadian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheCanadian)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/1 "2006-04-12T05:24:42Z")

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So I’ve missed the entire week of school and need some help with physics for my exam tomorrow. Anyways enough excuses, the question is this:

A vertical loop on a roller coaster has a radius of 10.0m. At what minimum speed must a car travel at the top of the loop for it to remain in contact with the track?

So if anyone is still awake and willing to help, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks a bundle :mountie:

PS: For anyone who does attempt this, the correct answer to the problem is 9.90m/s.

Edit: Scratch that, just realized that some other equations applied to this problem, specifically:

T = 2[pi]√(l/g)  
and  
v=2[pi]r/T

I’ll keep this thread open in case I have some more questions 🙂

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**Author:** ![anon1712571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@anon1712571](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anon1712571)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/2 "2006-04-12T05:35:48Z")

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Well thatis a pretty easy question to answer. Well actually it is about 9.8ms^2 rather than 9.9.

Gravity is measured to be at a constant of 9.8 ms^2. Anything above this in an opposing direction will overcome the force of gravity. There could be many solutions past this, as you could have an incoming ramp of 1km (if u are talking about aproach length)

But it needs to be at at least 9.8 (or 9.9. if you round it off to that)  
to balance out 😛

Ahh looking at ur edit I can see ur using equations for centripetal motion eh? 😛 hahahahah have fun… 😛

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**Author:** ![TheCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheCanadian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheCanadian)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:55am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/3 "2006-04-12T05:55:26Z")

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Thanks for the reply, hopefully you’ll be able to answer my new question:

A girl swings 0.5kg teddy bear on a 0.3m rope in a vertical loop with a constant period of 1s. Estimate the tension in the cord when the teddy is in its:  
a) lowest position (answer: 10.8N)  
b) highest position (answer: 1.01N)

I guess the real question is, what the deuce is tension? From my thinking I’m guessing it has something to do with centripetal force acting on the bear but, again, I would really appreciate some help with this 🙂

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**Author:** ![anon1712571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@anon1712571](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anon1712571)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/4 "2006-04-12T06:05:51Z")

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Ah u just take away gravity from it 😛  
remember that there is more force at the bottom of a loop 😃

OMG OMG

My post count says 1337 !!!

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**Author:** ![TheCanadian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheCanadian](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/TheCanadian)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/5 "2006-04-12T06:22:58Z")

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Alright, apparently I’m dumber than I look - unless I look bad in which case I would be exactly as dumb as I look and have two problems. Anyways, how would you calculate it?

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**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/6 "2006-04-12T07:28:16Z")

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Who ever said that g was necessarily equal to 9.8 ms^2?

In Pakistan it’s almost 9.9. It varies every latitude or so dude!

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**Author:** ![anon1712571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@anon1712571](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anon1712571)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 9:07am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/7 "2006-04-12T09:07:44Z")

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rofl well that is the standard that it is usually measured.😛 Bleh good point though heheh

Anyways, u just need to remember that the force at the bottom of the loop (assuming u move at a constant) is 9.8(or 9) more than at the top of the loop.

Plugin ur numbers into the formulae and u will get a nice answer 😛  
( I haven’t touched centripetal motion for a while)

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**Author:** ![Phenex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.kirupa.com/phenex/32/686_2.png) [@Phenex](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Phenex)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/physics-20-problem/185278/8 "2006-04-12T20:09:10Z")

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Me neither 😛
