# Power Corrupts All? **URL:** \ **Category:** random\ **Created:** [June 14, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217 "2003-06-14T21:20:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lostinbeta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/db5fbb/32.png) [@lostinbeta](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/lostinbeta)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/1 "2003-06-14T21:20:10Z")
Not only is Microsoft discontinuing IE for Macs, but there is a possibility that both Apple and Microsoft will do something that will greatly effect the web today… in a negative way. Apparently Microsoft is planning to stop releasing IE as a free browser and start packaging it with the Windows Operating System. Yep thats right, the possibility of “Update this now” may become “Buy a new OS with the update now”. Yes, microsoft is evil for doing this, but guess what… Apple may be thinking of doing the same with their new Safari browser! I can’t make anymore points that aren’t stated here… [http://whatdoiknow.org/archives/001002.php](http://whatdoiknow.org/archives/001002.php) I recommend reading that, I am completely shocked. BTW: This is \NOT\ a Microsoft vs Apple debate thread, it’s about the possibility of what may happen to the future of the web as we know it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/2 "2003-06-14T21:24:13Z")
that’s probably the most aweful thing that could happen having in mind compatibility issues… stupid self-centered manufactureres ;( ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/3 "2003-06-14T21:42:30Z")
I don’t see how it’s THAT big of a deal. You can still use mozilla or something like that, plus you can still get IE 6 for free. I’m more worried about the tax on the internet thing. That’ll be horrible. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/4 "2003-06-14T21:49:15Z")
Web functionality wise. Think about how many MORE compatibility issues will exist on the web if you have to update your OS to update your browser. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/5 "2003-06-14T22:00:56Z")
Microsoft suck but there is no choice when it comes to software (well about for Lindows and Linux _ **sniggers** _ ) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/6 "2003-06-14T22:08:53Z")
That is just frigin’ great… as it is now web designers are catching hell trying to design sites cross platform, cross browser and in multiple version of each browser, Now we are going to have people stuck with IE 6 becuase the can’t afford an os update, not to mention mac users like me… which is a whole nother issue… life just keeps gettin’ better Capitolism Rocks ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/7 "2003-06-14T22:10:35Z")
i think that with most companies and stuff like this is that its a business. people are competing to earn more money, even if it will make their product worse. idunno, i guess it’s kindof like cars. one company makes suvs and trucks, while another makes every type of car. the first company may put alot of effort and work into the 2 cars they make, while the second company puts less into their cars but makes more money because they sell more. they are all competing for our money, and even though it’s stupid, we have to live with it.😱 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/8 "2003-06-14T22:11:45Z")
i agree cross production sucks \*\*\* now so think when you have to make poor people we sites 2:P ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/9 "2003-06-14T22:20:17Z")
Yes, It seems that Power Corrupts All, Lost. That’s turning the whole WWW into a piece of junk and a total corruption, Just because of Microsoft’s new ''not-coherent-at-all" strategy. But After all, can’t we just use mozilla as what nali stated? Though am not bounded to It and not slightly sagacious if it contains any more bugs than IE. However, this process of updating into mozilla would Imperceptibly be growing and People would stick to the buggy version of IE, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/10 "2003-06-14T22:22:35Z")
Check this out…right now I live in Montreal, not only do I have to make, site cross production, I have to make English and french versions as well… It’s is the law _almost…_ any company doing business in Quebec via the internet must have a French version of thier site… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/11 "2003-06-14T22:25:55Z")
wow… now that sucks here use this [www.freetranslation.com](http://www.freetranslation.com) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/12 "2003-06-14T22:47:42Z")
This is horrible. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/13 "2003-06-14T22:51:05Z")
> \*Originally posted by h88 \* > \*\*That’s turning the whole WWW into a piece of junk and a total corruption… \*\* > so that’s the WWWW then? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/14 "2003-06-14T23:01:06Z")
> \*Originally posted by h88 \* > \*\*Yes, It seems that Power Corrupts All, Lost. That’s turning the whole WWW into a piece of junk and a total corruption, Just because of Microsoft’s new ''not-coherent-at-all" strategy. But After all, can’t we just use mozilla as what nali stated? Though am not bounded to It and not slightly sagacious if it contains any more bugs than IE. However, this process of updating into mozilla would Imperceptibly be growing and People would stick to the buggy version of IE, IMO. \*\* I agree, but as for just switching to 3rd party browsers, we COULD do that, but that still doesn’t eliminate that other people would still be using the most current browsers. For web designers could you imagine? Web designers are supposed to ensure cross browser compatibility through browser types and versions, which means web designers are almost required to keep up with the most recent browsers to make sure that it works correctly on the new browsers as well as the old. And imagine people who use OSes like Linux, they usually download the free version of IE, but now they don’t have that option, they have no choice to switch to Mozilla or some other third party browser. I know I wouldn’t want to be forced to switch my default browser if I am used to using a certain one. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/15 "2003-06-14T23:12:04Z")
good points you guys rasie 🙂 maybe we should start a petition of some kind eh… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/16 "2003-06-14T23:13:25Z")
sounds like a plan! this really does suck big time… I thought MS weren’t allowed to ship IE with OSs… didnt they get in trouble for that last time? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/17 "2003-06-14T23:16:28Z")
MS makes IE why would they get in trouble for shipping their own browser with their own operating system :q: 😛 BTW: IE comes installed with Windows anyway. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/18 "2003-06-14T23:16:35Z")
The costs of the Ivory towers must be waaay up … …Ol’ BillboFaggins and HandJobs seem to need a cost of living raise…say a couple hundred-thousand more per hour … that… Or both need to be beat in public…hmmmmm start with Billy-Boy and see if Stevie gets the hint what a couple of Maroons, what I would hope would happen is that the open source market will flourish with such fervor that it puts them both out of bussiness … one can hope, right ? :sure: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/19 "2003-06-14T23:18:52Z")
They got in trouble for Forcing the inclusion of their products as a condition of licensing to third party mfg’s ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217/20 "2003-06-14T23:19:52Z")
> \*Originally posted by lostinbeta \* > \*\*MS makes IE why would they get in trouble for shipping their own browser with their own operating system :q: 😛 BTW: IE comes installed with Windows anyway. \*\* I thought the whole way they released Windows and IE came under that monopoly trouble a while back… weren’t they suggesting that they should split MS in two? [Next page](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/power-corrupts-all/23217.md?page=2)