# Quick Optics (Physics) Question

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**Created:** [April 24, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837 "2006-04-24T22:37:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/1 "2006-04-24T22:37:25Z")

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A couple of hours to go until a test and I’ve got a burning question that I can’t find an answer to on Google.

\*\*If a virtual object is placed in front of a flat mirror, what’s the resulting image? Virtual or real? \*\*(assuming no refractions, only reflection)  
The textbook didn’t really explicitly say anything about this. I know that a real object placed in front of a mirror will result in a virtual image. Would it be the other way around the object was virtual in the first place?

The reason I ask is cause of multiple lens/mirror problems. If there is first a diverging lens that produces a virtual image from a real object and then passes the light onto a mirror, what’s the result?

Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![kdd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@kdd](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/kdd)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/2 "2006-04-24T23:54:04Z")

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this is my like a psychology question than a physics question, i think. 😛

i’m sorry, i don’t know… good luck on the test. :beam:

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/3 "2006-04-24T23:57:05Z")

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Thanks 😃

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**Author:** ![3d\_Nirvana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/a88e4f/32.png) [@3d\_Nirvana](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/3d_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/4 "2006-04-24T23:57:39Z")

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real? i think the mirror flips it if I remember … it’s been a long time since I’ve done anything with mirrors

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/5 "2006-04-25T00:04:10Z")

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I have no idea. Honestly I don’t think it’d even reflect. But I really have no idea.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/uploads/kirupa/original/3X/6/2/621e5c11736f46532526e61be85940af4230f3e5.png) [@system](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/6 "2006-04-25T00:06:49Z")

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> 

The reason I ask is cause of multiple lens/mirror problems. If there is first a diverging lens that produces a virtual image from a real object and then passes the light onto a mirror, what’s the result?

according to my understanding it should be virtual  
logically - if you place an apple in front of a mirror it makes a “virtual” reflection in the mirror, now aim this mirror at a lense or another mirror, the image that is created is still a variant of the apple but not a true representation of it…thereby virtual.

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“A diverging lens can only produce a virtual image, because the light passing through a diverging lens never converges to a point. The virtual image produced by a diverging lens is always right-side-up and smaller than the original object. The image and the object viewed are always on the same side of the lens. Diverging lenses are used as viewfinders in cameras.”

[http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/physics/lenses-wop.html](http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/physics/lenses-wop.html)

[http://online.cctt.org/physicslab/content/Phy1/lessonnotes/diverginglenses/diverginglenses.asp](http://online.cctt.org/physicslab/content/Phy1/lessonnotes/diverginglenses/diverginglenses.asp)

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/7 "2006-04-25T00:13:28Z")

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OOoo that makes sense prstudio. Yeah the multiple mirrors argument works. Sweet thanks!

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/8 "2006-04-25T00:20:38Z")

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np - hope you do well on the test

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**Author:** ![thesparky007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@thesparky007](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/thesparky007)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/9 "2006-04-25T00:40:16Z")

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yes, like prstudio said it is virtual

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**Author:** ![3d\_Nirvana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/a88e4f/32.png) [@3d\_Nirvana](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/3d_Nirvana)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/10 "2006-04-25T00:43:28Z")

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yeah ok i agree… i havent done any of that stuff for like 2 years…

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**Author:** ![anon1712571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@anon1712571](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anon1712571)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/11 "2006-04-25T02:51:08Z")

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😃 Now that was fun to wrap my head around 😛

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Wheeler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jeff\_Wheeler](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/Jeff_Wheeler)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/12 "2006-04-25T03:26:50Z")

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Good luck :thumb:

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**Author:** ![MTsoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@MTsoul](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/MTsoul)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/13 "2006-04-25T03:28:11Z")

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Shanks!

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**Author:** ![hsadan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hsadan](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/hsadan)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/14 "2006-04-25T04:38:56Z")

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Wouldn’t it depend if the virtual object is on the focal point, outside, or inside focal length? Also, how can an object be virtual?

for a mirror:

“real images form on the side of a mirror where the object is, and virtual images form on the opposite side.”

for a thin lense:

“real images form on the side of a lense that is opposite the object, and virtual images form on the side where the object is.”

right out of my textbook.

Now as for the question: I think when doing two lense problems you simply treat the first resultant image as the object for the other, regardless of whether or not it is virtual.

give it a shot on a few practice problems.

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**Author:** ![anvsubmission](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@anvsubmission](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/anvsubmission)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:58am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/quick-optics-physics-question/186837/15 "2006-04-25T05:58:14Z")

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I have no idea,either.good luck!🙂
