# Shadows/dub?

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shadows-dub/131375>\
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**Created:** [December 15, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shadows-dub/131375 "2004-12-15T03:01:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shadows-dub/131375/1 "2004-12-15T03:01:39Z")

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found these two the other day…  
the shadows one is interesting, but the java shake has been over done.  
while sticking to his raw talent james berga from [wa007](http://www.webagent007.com) out does himself again with dubs new site, not as good as some others ive seen, but dosent really rely on outside progs like AE or 3d progs.  
[http://www.shadowsindarkness.com /](http://www.shadowsindarkness.com)  
[http://www.dubmagazine.com/](http://www.dubmagazine.com/)