# Shape hints from hell

**URL:** <https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shape-hints-from-hell/112846>\
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**Created:** [June 11, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shape-hints-from-hell/112846 "2004-06-11T22:08:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![buggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@buggo](https://forum.kirupa.com/u/buggo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.kirupa.com/t/shape-hints-from-hell/112846/1 "2004-06-11T22:08:43Z")

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Sorry to bore anyone, but whenever I try to tweak a shape tween with hints they seem to make the lot worse! I’ve heard about starting upper left and going around counter clockwise, but turning an A into an O (both forms of course) with that placement just squiggles and spins my tween.

Are there any rules that could help? I once saw something from Macromedia that turned a poodle into a bike. The designer probably had a padt with the Devil…

Thanks for any ideas,

buggo