sorry lostinbeta i just saw this. Thanks for your post I was starting to doubt whether anyone could give me any tips. I’m about to take a look at that tutorial and yea I usually try to fool around with a code to see it’s abilities once I’ve got it down. It is however about 1:30 in the morning so I’m heading to bed and I’ll be doing all the editing in the morn. Thanks a lot for the reply beta, sorry I am pretty subborn about figuring things out sometimes. 